Integral Sin(ax)^2 Between Infinity and 0

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The discussion revolves around the integral of the function sin(ax)^2, particularly in the context of normalization for a wavefunction within an infinite square well potential. Participants explore the appropriate limits for the integral and the implications of periodicity and potential boundaries.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant initially requests the result for the integral of sin(ax)*sin(ax) from infinity to 0, indicating a need for a standard result involving 'a'.
  • Another participant asserts that the integral does not exist in general.
  • A participant clarifies that the integral is needed for normalizing a wavefunction, specifically sin(ax), and questions the limits of integration, suggesting they may need to be between -a and a instead of infinity and 0.
  • One participant notes that the function is periodic and nonnegative, implying that each period has finite area, which raises questions about the total area over infinite periods.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the wavefunction is zero where the potential is infinite, reinforcing the need for correct limits.
  • There is a consensus that the limits should indeed be between -a and a for the integral of sin(ax)^2.
  • A suggestion is made to use the half-angle identity and u-substitution for the integral, along with a note about the average value of sin^2(x) being 1/2.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about whether the limits should be from -1/a to +1/a or if the argument of the sine function should be adjusted.
  • A later reply indicates that the participant has resolved their query, suggesting some progress in understanding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the limits for the integral should be between -a and a, but there are still uncertainties regarding the exact formulation and conditions of the integral.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the implications of periodicity and normalization, but there are unresolved questions about the limits of integration and the behavior of the wavefunction at the boundaries of the potential well.

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Need result for integral
Sin(ax)*Sin(ax) Between Infinity and 0

Cant find this anywhere but there is a standard result with a in it.
 
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That integral won't exist in general.
 
Should do need it for a normalisation problem

have to square the wavefunction then integrate

wavefuction form: sin(ax)

so need to integrate sin(ax)^2 over all space

problem is part of infinite square well limits should between infinity and 0.
V=0 for x< a
v= infinity for x>a

Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong limits.

should probably be between a and -a ?
 
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Think about it. It's periodic and always nonnegative. Assuming a≠0, every period will have finite area. So the sum of the areas of the infinite periods ...
 
the wave function is zero where the potential is infinite
 
Yeah my limits are wrong because the well is bound between a and -a

so need integral between -a and a for sin(ax)^2
 
You mean \displaystyle \int_{-a}^{a}\sin^2(ax)dx I presume.
Did you try the half-angle identity and u-substitution?
 
Nick789 said:
Yeah my limits are wrong because the well is bound between a and -a

so need integral between -a and a for sin(ax)^2

Millennial said:
You mean \displaystyle \int_{-a}^{a}\sin^2(ax)dx I presume.
Did you try the half-angle identity and u-substitution?

Nick, take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Math and learn (it's very easy) a little math-symbol paste-up, like LaTeX. perhaps there is a better description somewhere.

just remember that \sin^2(x) has an average value of 1/2 and if you integrate any non-zero constant over anything to \infty, you will get an infinite number. and i am wondering if the limits should be from -1/a to +1/a ? or should it be a 1/a in the sin() argument?
 
yeah thanks its done now
 

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