Integrate f(t) from 0 to 1/n: Explained

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The discussion centers around the integration of the function f(t) from 0 to 1/n, specifically examining the relationship between the integral and the value of the function at zero. Participants explore whether the equation $$\int_{0}^{1/n}f(t)dt=\frac{1}{n}f(0)$$ represents an exact equality or an approximation, as well as the implications of taking the limit as n approaches infinity.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the transition from the left-hand side to the right-hand side of the equation, seeking clarification on the reasoning behind it.
  • One participant suggests that the equation is an approximation, arguing that it approximates the integral by a rectangle with width 1/n and height f(0), and that this approximation improves as n increases.
  • Another participant presents a limit approach, asserting that the limit of n times the integral equals f(0) without relying on approximations, using the definition of the derivative of the antiderivative of f.
  • There are repeated references to the importance of the behavior of f(t) near zero in determining the validity of the approximation or equality.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the equation represents an exact equality or an approximation. There is no consensus on the interpretation of the relationship between the integral and the function value at zero.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for assumptions about the behavior of f(t) as it approaches zero, which may affect the validity of the approximation or equality discussed.

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Hello,

I passed by this integration and couldn't understand the moving from the left hand to the right hand side.

$$
\int_{0}^{1/n}f(t)dt=\frac{1}{n}f(0)
$$

could you please tell me why this is??
 
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the equation was actually
$$
\lim_{n \to \infty }n\int_{0}^{1/n}f(t)dt= \lim_{n \to \infty }n\frac{1}{n}f(0)=f(0)
$$
 
electronic engineer said:
Hello,

I passed by this integration and couldn't understand the moving from the left hand to the right hand side.

$$
\int_{0}^{1/n}f(t)dt=\frac{1}{n}f(0)
$$

could you please tell me why this is??
I believe this is an approximation rather than an exact equality, although the approximation should get better with larger n.

What they are doing is approximating the integral on the left side by a rectangle whose width is 1/n and whose height is f(0). In the drawing below, the area of the green region is f(0) * (1/n). The value of the integral is the sum of the blue and green regions. The closer 1/n is to zero, the closer f(1/n) is to f(0), and the closer the approximation is, assuming that f is reasonably "well behaved."

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electronic engineer said:
the equation was actually
$$
\lim_{n \to \infty }n\int_{0}^{1/n}f(t)dt= \lim_{n \to \infty }n\frac{1}{n}f(0)=f(0)
$$
You can actually prove this without making approximations: Let ##F(x)## be an antiderivative of ##f(x)##. Then
$$\lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}n\int_0^{\frac{1}{n}}f(t)\mathrm d t = \lim_{n\rightarrow\infty} \frac{F(\frac{1}{n})-F(0)}{\frac{1}{n}} = F^\prime(0) = f(0) \text{.}$$
 
Dear Mark44 and rubi,

thank you both for providing the information. It was very helpful. Thank you very much indeed! :-)
 

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