Integrating 1/(u⁴+1), 1/(u⁵+1), and 1/(u⁶+1)

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the functions 1/(u⁴+1), 1/(u⁵+1), and 1/(u⁶+1) over the interval from 0 to 1. Participants explore various methods for solving these integrals, including factoring the denominators and using partial fractions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using partial fractions after factoring the denominator into quadratics.
  • Another participant challenges the feasibility of this approach, indicating that it may not be applicable.
  • Several participants provide detailed steps for integrating 1/(u⁴+1), including specific factorizations and substitutions.
  • There is a correction regarding a mistake in the integration steps, with a participant acknowledging an error in their previous response.
  • Another participant proposes a similar method for integrating 1/(u⁵+1) and encourages others to share their solutions for comparison.
  • Discussions include the need for detailed solutions and clarifications on the integration process.

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Participants express differing opinions on the methods for integration, with some supporting the use of partial fractions while others question its validity. There is no consensus on the best approach, and the discussion remains unresolved.

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Some participants note potential mistakes in the integration steps and the need for careful simplification. The discussion highlights the complexity of the integrals and the various approaches that can be taken.

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Determine the integral:
y = \int_{0}^{1} 1/(u^4+1)du
and
y = \int_{0}^{1} 1/(u^5+1)du
and
y = \int_{0}^{1} 1/(u^6+1)du
 
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Just factor the denominator (to quadratics) and use partial fractions.
 
Data said:
Just factor the denominator (to quadratics) and use partial fractions.

no no, can't do like that!
 
don't see why not~
 
Data said:
don't see why not~
show me the solution!
 
\int_0^1 \frac{du}{u^4+1} = \int_0^1 \frac{du}{(u^2 + \sqrt{2}u + 1)(u^2 - \sqrt{2}u + 1)}

= \int_0^1 \frac{du}{2\sqrt{2}}\left(\frac{1}{u^2 - \sqrt{2}u + 1} - \frac{1}{u^2 + \sqrt{2}u + 1} \right)

= \frac{1}{2\sqrt{2}} \left( \int_0^1 \frac{du}{\left(u-\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\right)^2+\frac{1}{2}} - \int_0^1 \frac{du}{\left(u+\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\right)^2+\frac{1}{2}} \right)

and from there it's just minor substitutions to finish.
 
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Hix, you did the wrong thing form row 1 -> row 2!
 
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Data said:
\int_0^1 \frac{du}{u^4+1} = \int_0^1 \frac{du}{(u^2 + \sqrt{2}u + 1)(u^2 - \sqrt{2}u + 1)}

= \int_0^1 \frac{du}{2\sqrt{2}}\left(\frac{1}{u^2 - \sqrt{2}u + 1} - \frac{1}{u^2 + \sqrt{2}u + 1} \right)

= \frac{1}{2\sqrt{2}} \left( \int_0^1 \frac{du}{\left(u-\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\right)^2+\frac{1}{2}} - \int_0^1 \frac{du}{\left(u+\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\right)^2+\frac{1}{2}} \right)

and from there it's just minor substitutions to finish.
how about this:
y = \int_{0}^{1} 1/(u^5+1)du
 
Same advice. You can do it yourself this time :wink:
 
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Data said:
Same advice. You can do it yourself this time :wink:
but one more time, can you show me the solution! I really want to know the way you solve it to compare with my own method... Please give me the solution in detail!
 
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You can do it almost exactly the same way I did the last one - factor the denominator (in this case, it factors to a product of two irreducible quadractics and the linear factor (x+1)), then use partial fractions to separate it into a sum of functions that you know how to integrate.

Why don't you post an example of a solution using your method? I'm interested now!
 
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Data said:
\int_0^1 \frac{du}{u^4+1} = \int_0^1 \frac{du}{(u^2 + \sqrt{2}u + 1)(u^2 - \sqrt{2}u + 1)}

= \int_0^1 \frac{du}{2\sqrt{2}}\left(\frac{1}{u^2 - \sqrt{2}u + 1} - \frac{1}{u^2 + \sqrt{2}u + 1} \right)

= \frac{1}{2\sqrt{2}} \left( \int_0^1 \frac{du}{\left(u-\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\right)^2+\frac{1}{2}} - \int_0^1 \frac{du}{\left(u+\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\right)^2+\frac{1}{2}} \right)

and from there it's just minor substitutions to finish.
You made a mistake here:
\int_0^1 \frac{du}{u^4+1} = \int_0^1 \frac{du}{(u^2 + \sqrt{2}u + 1)(u^2 - \sqrt{2}u + 1)}

= \int_0^1 \frac{du}{2\sqrt{2}}\left(\frac{1}{u^2 - \sqrt{2}u + 1} - \frac{1}{u^2 + \sqrt{2}u + 1} \right)
 
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indeed I did, the second line should be

\int_0^1 \frac{du}{2}\left( \frac{\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}u + 1}{u^2+\sqrt{2}u+1} - \frac{\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}u - 1}{u^2-\sqrt{2}u+1}\right),

but the simplification after that is still similar, just with more terms.
 
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