Integrating 2-forms over a parameterised surface

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The discussion revolves around the integration of 2-forms over a parameterized surface, specifically focusing on calculating the surface area of a sphere using differential forms. Participants explore the correct 2-form to use and the integration process, referencing various mathematical texts and techniques.

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  • One participant attempts to integrate a specific 2-form to find the surface area of a sphere, providing a parameterization and calculations using Mathematica.
  • Another participant suggests that the initial 2-form used is incorrect for obtaining the expected result of 4πR² and proposes an alternative 2-form based on a reference from Lee's work.
  • A later reply clarifies the meaning of a symbol related to interior multiplication and explains how to construct a (k-1)-form from a k-form and a vector field.
  • Subsequent contributions confirm that the alternative approach suggested yields the correct surface area, detailing the integration process and the role of the unit normal vector.
  • Further discussion includes a reference to the determinant formula for the action of a k-form on vectors, highlighting the complexity of the integration process.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the initial choice of the 2-form, with one participant asserting its inadequacy while another successfully applies a different approach to achieve the expected result. The discussion reflects multiple perspectives on the integration technique and the mathematical principles involved.

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Some assumptions about the parameterization and the properties of the 2-forms are not explicitly stated, and the discussion relies on specific definitions and propositions from referenced texts, which may not be universally agreed upon.

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Not sure if this question belongs more here or in Topology & Geometry or in Math & Science Software...

I'm trying out the technique described in Bachman: A Geometric Approach to Differential forms, § 6.2 "Integrating 2-forms". To take a simple example, I tried to use this method to get the surface area of a sphere, S2, with radius R, embedded in R3. I think the 2-form I need to integrate is

\omega = dy \wedge dz + dz \wedge dx + dx \wedge dz.

I've chosen the obvious parameterization

\psi : \mathbb{R}^2 \rightarrow \mathbb{R}^3 \; \bigg| \; \psi (\zeta, \alpha) = R \; (\sin \zeta \cos \alpha, \sin \zeta \sin \alpha, \cos \zeta)

where 0 \leq \zeta \leq \pi is the zenith angle, and 0 \leq \alpha \leq 2 \pi the azimuth angle. Let \textbf{x}=\psi(\zeta, \alpha). Then

\frac{\partial \textbf{x}}{\partial \zeta} = R \; (\cos \zeta \cos \alpha, \cos \zeta \sin \alpha, -\sin \zeta)

\frac{\partial \textbf{x}}{\partial \alpha} = R \; (-\sin \zeta \sin \alpha, \sin \zeta \cos \alpha, 0)

Barring copying errors on my part, mathematica confirms this.

dy \wedge dz\left ( \frac{\partial \textbf{x}}{\partial \zeta}, \frac{\partial \textbf{x}}{\partial \alpha} \right ) = \begin{vmatrix}<br /> R \cos \zeta \sin \alpha &amp; R \cos \alpha \sin \zeta\\ <br /> -R \sin \zeta &amp; 0<br /> \end{vmatrix} = R^2 \cos \alpha \; \sin^2 \zeta

dz \wedge dx \left ( \frac{\partial \textbf{x}}{\partial \zeta}, \frac{\partial \textbf{x}}{\partial \alpha} \right ) = \begin{vmatrix}<br /> -R \sin \zeta &amp; 0 \\ R \cos \zeta \cos \alpha &amp; -R \sin \zeta \sin \alpha<br /> \end{vmatrix} = R^2 \sin \alpha \; \sin^2 \zeta

dx \wedge dy \left ( \frac{\partial \textbf{x}}{\partial \zeta}, \frac{\partial \textbf{x}}{\partial \alpha} \right ) = \begin{vmatrix}<br /> R \cos \zeta \cos \alpha &amp; -R \sin \zeta \sin \alpha \\ R \cos \zeta \sin \alpha<br /> &amp; R \sin \zeta \cos \alpha<br /> \end{vmatrix} = R^2 \cos \zeta \sin \zeta

But according to Mathematica,

R^2 \int_0^{2\pi} \int_0^\pi \left [ \sin^2 \zeta (\cos \alpha + \sin \alpha) + \cos \zeta \sin \zeta \right ] d \zeta \wedge d \alpha = 0

What went wrong?

Code:
x = R {Sin[z] Cos[a], Sin[z] Sin[a], Cos[z]};
tz = D[x, z]; ta = D[x, a];
Integrate[
 Simplify[Det[{{tz[[2]], ta[[2]]}, {tz[[3]], ta[[3]]}}] + 
   Det[{{tz[[3]], ta[[3]]}, {tz[[1]], ta[[1]]}}] + 
   Det[{{tz[[1]], ta[[1]]}, {tz[[2]], ta[[2]]}}]], {z, 0, Pi}, {a, 0, 
  2 Pi}]

Mathematica gave the same results for each of the matrices and their determinants as I got by hand.
 
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You are not using the right 2-form if you're hoping to get 4piR² as the answer.

Try integrating

(x/R)dydz - (y/R)dxdz + (z/R)dxdy

(See Proposition 13.24 in Lee's books which tells you which form is induced on an hypersurface)
 
Thanks for the pointer, Quasar. I don't have a copy of Introduction to Smooth Manifolds, but I can read bits of it on Google Books, and bits on Amazon, including this proposition.

What does the symbol between N and dVg mean?
 
It is interior multiplication, also often written \iota_NdV_g.

More generally, if you have a k form \Omega and a vector field X, then you can construct a (k-1)-form from these two ingredients by setting (\iota_X\Omega)(\cdot,\ldots,\cdot):=\Omega(X,\cdot,\ldots,\cdot). It is called the interior product of X with \Omega.
 
Excellent, that works perfectly. Thanks, Quasar, I understand now.

Code:
x = R {Sin[z] Cos[a], Sin[z] Sin[a], Cos[z]};
tz = D[x, z]; ta = D[x, a];
R^(-1)*Integrate[
  Simplify[x[[1]]*Det[{{tz[[2]], ta[[2]]}, {tz[[3]], ta[[3]]}}] + 
    x[[2]]*Det[{{tz[[3]], ta[[3]]}, {tz[[1]], ta[[1]]}}] + 
    x[[3]]*Det[{{tz[[1]], ta[[1]]}, {tz[[2]], ta[[2]]}}]], {z, 0, 
   Pi}, {a, 0, 2 Pi}]

gives 4 \pi R^2, since the unit normal vector is

\frac{\textbf{x}}{R}

And a more round-about way to the same result is

Code:
x = R {Sin[z] Cos[a], Sin[z] Sin[a], Cos[z]};
tz = D[x, z]; ta = D[x, a]; n = 
 Simplify[Cross[tz, ta]/Norm[Cross[tz, ta]]]; Integrate[
 Simplify[n[[1]]*Det[{{tz[[2]], ta[[2]]}, {tz[[3]], ta[[3]]}}] + 
   n[[2]]*Det[{{tz[[3]], ta[[3]]}, {tz[[1]], ta[[1]]}}] + 
   n[[3]]*Det[{{tz[[1]], ta[[1]]}, {tz[[2]], ta[[2]]}}]], {z, 0, 
  Pi}, {a, 0, 2 Pi}, Assumptions -> R \[Element] Reals]

defining the unit normal by

N=\frac{\partial_\zeta \textbf{x} \times \partial_\alpha \textbf{x}}{\left \| \partial_\zeta \textbf{x} \times \partial_\alpha \textbf{x} \right \|}.

And we get the action of a k-form, k > 1, on a single vector, starting with the complete determinant formula, given by Lee in Riemannian Manifolds as

\omega^1 \wedge ... \wedge \omega^k (v_1, ..., v_k) = \text{det}(\omega^i(v_j))

(Bachman defines it equivalently by the transpose), and then carrying out the first stage of computing this determinant, splitting it into determinants of (empty) submatrices, each multiplied by the appropriate coefficient of the vector, then plugging into these subdeterminants the coefficients of the tangent basis to the embedded surface to be integrated over.

Incidentally, Wikipedia's remark on the terminology made me smile: "The interior product, named in opposition to the exterior product, is also called interior or inner multiplication, or the inner derivative or derivation, but should not be confused with an inner product." (Also called... Also not to be confused with the following things also called inner product...)
 

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