Integrating Bulk Modulus to Find Pressure at Variable Depth

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The discussion focuses on calculating pressure at a depth of 5000 ft using the bulk modulus and hydrostatic equations. The initial pressure is confirmed as 322,000 psf using the formula pressure = density * gravity * depth. The bulk modulus equation is introduced to account for variable density with depth, leading to the relationship ρ = ρ0 * e^(p/B). The integration of the hydrostatic equation is discussed, culminating in the expression e^(-p/B)dp = ρ0g dz for further analysis.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


pressure = density*gravity*depth

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The pressure at 5000 ft according to the book is 322,000 psf. This makes sense because density*gravity*depth = 2*32.2*5000 = 322,000 psf. How do I apply the bulk modulus equation to find the pressure at 5000 ft factoring a variable density with depth (The book says its 323,200 psf which makes sense because density increases with depth, although very slightly)?
 

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What is the hydrostatic equation, expressed in terms of the derivative of pressure with respect to depth?
 
That would be just [density*gravity]. So how do I apply that?
 
reddawg said:
That would be just [density*gravity]. So how do I apply that?
Right. $$\frac{dp}{dz}=\rho g$$
Now, from the bulk modulus equation, if the density approaches ##\rho_0## at low pressures, what is the density at pressure p?
 
That's where I have trouble. I always end up with just [density*gravity*depth]. Is it just (1/g)*(dp/dz) ?
 
reddawg said:
That's where I have trouble. I always end up with just [density*gravity*depth]. Is it just (1/g)*(dp/dz) ?
The relationship between density and pressure does not involve z. It's strictly a physical property relationship (sort of like the ideal gas law, except for a liquid).

Chet
 
So, solving for density using the Bulk Modulus equation:

ρ = B*(Δρ/p)
 
reddawg said:
So, solving for density using the Bulk Modulus equation:

ρ = B*(Δρ/p)
Actually, the equation is $$\frac{1}{\rho}\frac{d\rho}{dp}=\frac{d(\ln \rho)}{dp}=\frac{1}{B}$$ What do you get if you integrate that, subject to the initial condition ##\rho=\rho_0## at p --> 0?
 
I get:

(1/B)*p = ln(ρ/ρ0) when factoring in the initial conditions.
 
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reddawg said:
I get:

(1/B)*p = ln(ρ/ρ0) when factoring in the initial conditions.
Good. Now solve for ##\rho## in terms of p. What do you get?
 
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ρ = ρ0ep/B
 
  • #12
reddawg said:
ρ = ρ0ep/B
OK. Now substitute that into the hydrostatic equation in post #4. What do you get? Can you integrate that from z =0?
 
  • #13
(dp/dz) = ρ0gep/B

How do I rearrange that to integrate from z=0 to h?
 
  • #14
reddawg said:
(dp/dz) = ρ0gep/B

How do I rearrange that to integrate from z=0 to h?
Cmon man.

$$e^{-\frac{p}{B}}dp=\rho_0 g dz$$
 

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