Integrating the Differential Equation: dW/dx = W(4-2W)^(1/2)

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The discussion revolves around solving the differential equation dW/dx = W(4-2W)^(1/2), focusing on integration techniques and substitutions.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore various integration methods, including u-substitution and partial fractions. There is uncertainty about how to proceed after initial substitutions, and some participants question the correctness of their substitutions and the handling of variables.

Discussion Status

Several participants have offered guidance on substitution techniques and the need to replace variables consistently. There is ongoing exploration of different approaches, including potential trigonometric substitutions and the use of logarithmic identities. No explicit consensus has been reached regarding the best method to solve the equation.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the presence of specific terms in the solution, such as the appearance of a sech function, and express confusion about missing constants in their logarithmic expressions. There is also mention of checking answers against external resources, indicating a reliance on verification methods.

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Homework Statement


Solve dW/dx=W(4-2W)^(1/2)



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dW/[W(4-2W)^(1/2)]=dx
dW/[W(4-2W)^(1/2)]=x+C
I'm unsure of whether to use a u-sub, partial fractions, or a trig substition to integrate. I looked in the back of the book and the answer has a sech in the answer but how to get there?
 
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First try u = 4 - 2W
 
I did that and was left with dW/[Wu^(1/2)]. I know du would give me -2. I thought about using du/[(u-4)u^(1/2)], but wasn't sure what to do from there.
 
Then you didn't do it right! When you substitute, you cannot leave the "old" variable in the integral, not even in the differential. If u= 4-2W, then 2W= 4- u so W= (4-u)/2 and dW= (-1/2)du.
 
You need to "replace" or substitute all W's with u's in the integrand. Using u = 4 - 2W, solve for W and substitute that for W in the integrand. You also need du in your integrand, not dW.
 
So, I'm left with :
-du/[(4-u)u^(1/2)]
Then I'm stuck
 
Use another substitution that gets rid of the square root.
 
So, using a=u^(1/2) and a^2=u, then du=2ada and 4-u=4-a^2
-2ada/[(4-a^2)a]=2da/(a^2-4). This leads to a trig answer because I think there is a trig law with a^2+c^2?
 
You could use a trig substitution; however, partial fractions would be better.
 
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So, I got 1/2ln[(4-2w)^(1/2)-2]-1/2ln[(4-2w)^(1/2)+2]=x+c
 
  • #11
After checking the answer on wolframalpha, it looks like you're missing a couple numbers in the ln's.
 
  • #12
I went from:
partial fractions A=1/2, B=-1/2
1/2ln(a-2)-1/2ln(a+2)
1/2ln(u^1/2-2)-1/2ln(u^1/2+2)
So, I got 1/2ln[(4-2w)^(1/2)-2]-1/2ln[(4-2w)^(1/2)+2]=x+c
Where would I have gone wrong to need these extra numbers?
 
  • #13
Differentiating your result does give the same thing you started with, so your answer is correct.
 
  • #14
ok thanks
 

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