Integration Question: Confused on Limits of Integration

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The discussion revolves around a homework problem involving the limits of integration in a definite integral. Participants explore the reasoning behind changing the limits and the implications of the function being integrated, specifically focusing on the properties of even functions and the notation used in integrals.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the change in limits of integration from -a/2 to 0 and questions the validity of this step.
  • Another participant explains that the function being integrated, ##N^2(x^2-a^2/4)^2##, is even, which allows the integral from -a/2 to 0 to be equated to the integral from 0 to a/2, justifying the factor of 2 in the new expression.
  • A participant acknowledges their initial thought about the even function but admits to not finding it in the text, indicating a gap in their understanding.
  • There is a suggestion to include the differential in integrals, emphasizing its importance in more complex integration techniques.
  • A participant agrees with the importance of including the differential, sharing a humorous anecdote about their instructor's strictness regarding this notation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the properties of even functions and the reasoning behind the change in limits, but there is no consensus on the completeness of the explanation or its presence in the instructional material.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted limitation regarding the participants' reliance on their textbook for understanding the properties of even functions and the notation of integrals, which may not have been adequately covered.

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im working on some homework that the instructor recently gave us the solutions to and I am confused on something that he's done.
intailly i have

∫N2(x+a/2)2(x-a/2)2 the integral is from a/2 to -a/2

the next step is this

∫2N2(x2-a2/4)2 integrated from a/2 to 0

i don't understand why the limits of integration are changing and where the new numbers are coming from. is this something that can be done because the initial limits are opposites of each other?
 
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##N^2(x^2-a^2/4)^2## is an even function, so its integral from -a/2 to 0 is the same as its integral from 0 to a/2. So we just calculate one of them and double the result. That's where the coefficient of 2 in the second formula comes from.
 
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ahhh ok. i was thinking that but i couldn't find anything in the text about it so i wanted to make sure.
i suppose that's one of those things i should just know about by now haha

thank you mr andrewkirk!
 
nmsurobert said:
im working on some homework that the instructor recently gave us the solutions to and I am confused on something that he's done.
intailly i have

∫N2(x+a/2)2(x-a/2)2 the integral is from a/2 to -a/2

the next step is this

∫2N2(x2-a2/4)2 integrated from a/2 to 0
You really should get in the habit of including the differential with your integrals. When you're first learning about integrals, the 'dx' or whatever it happens to be seems superfluous (like a human appendix), but omitting it will come back around and bite you when you're working with more complicated substitutions such as trig substitution or integration by parts.
 
Mark44 said:
You really should get in the habit of including the differential with your integrals. When you're first learning about integrals, the 'dx' or whatever it happens to be seems superfluous (like a human appendix), but omitting it will come back around and bite you when you're working with more complicated substitutions such as trig substitution or integration by parts.

totally agree with you. my paper is covered with them, i promise. i just forgot to put it in as i was typing it.
my calc2 instructor would bleed all over our assignments if we forgot to put those haha
 

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