Interested in Engineering, where do i start?

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The discussion revolves around the role of mathematics in engineering education and practice, particularly focusing on the concerns of a prospective engineering student regarding their math skills. Participants explore the necessary mathematical foundations for various engineering disciplines, especially industrial engineering, and share their experiences and perspectives on the importance of math in both academic and professional settings.

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  • One participant expresses concern about their math skills and questions whether they can still pursue a career in engineering.
  • Another participant emphasizes that math is a significant part of the undergraduate engineering curriculum, listing courses such as Calculus I-III, Ordinary Differential Equations, and Linear Algebra.
  • Some participants argue that while math is essential in engineering education, many engineers use only basic math and trigonometry in their daily jobs.
  • It is noted that understanding fundamental concepts and practical applications of math is more important than being a math expert.
  • A participant suggests that real-world applications of math can make it more engaging and easier to learn.
  • Concerns are raised about the current state of physics courses, with claims that many do not utilize calculus, relying instead on algebraic reductions.
  • Another participant mentions the necessity of math throughout an engineering career, indicating that complex problems often require extensive mathematical derivations.
  • Some participants share personal experiences of developing a love for math after graduation, contrasting their previous struggles with the subject.

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Participants generally agree that math is a crucial component of engineering education, but there are differing views on its necessity in professional practice. Some believe that advanced math is not frequently used in the workplace, while others stress that a solid mathematical foundation is essential for understanding engineering concepts.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention varying experiences with math in engineering courses and the potential differences in educational approaches across regions, particularly between Europe and other areas. There is also a lack of consensus on the current use of calculus in physics courses.

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Prospective engineering students, individuals interested in pursuing a career in engineering, and those seeking to understand the relationship between mathematics and engineering practice may find this discussion beneficial.

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I am not a perfect math student first off. Is there still a chance for to be an engineer? I am fascinating with mechanical things, especially industrial engineering and engineering in general. How could i better myself in this field, where should i start. And what level math am i required to know in order to be a proficient industrial engineer or general engineer? please the types of math I'd need to know.

Thank you!
 
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Speaking from an engineering students standpoint, math is a very big part of the undergraduate curriculum. You have to take calcI-III, ODE, Linear algebra" sometimes optional", statistics... the list goes on. Also almost every course you will take will require you to solve problems, so math will follow you like the plague until graduation.

I learned to love math, and I hated it in high school.

Best of luck
 
Math is important (essential in undergrad education). Plenty of engineering fundamentals/concepts are conveyed with mathematics; however, outside of college, being great at mathematics is not a requirement for being great at engineering. The amount of math involved is job (and not degree) specific. I work with plenty of degreed engineers that only use algebra & trig on a day to day basis. They design great parts/machines/processes/systems. The only time they use "advanced" mathematics is while doing homework for their part time courses for their masters degrees.
 
Yer, most engineers that I know just use basic math and trig in their day to day jobs. But Engineering is so much more than the math, with is just the tool. And yet, you can't be a good engineer without knowledge and exposure to all the math courses listed above, plus Physics. And you can't get a degree without these courses.
 
As an engineering student, you will be required to take math, definitely. However, you do not need to be a math genius to be a good engineer and do well in your courses. Understanding fundamental concepts and how things work is more important in my opinion. If you need to evaluate an integral, learn how to use mathematica. Knowing how to use computer software and numerically solve problems is useful.

People who know math but can't apply it are not useful. Knowing how to apply the math and set up a problem is more important than knowing how to evaluate a complicated integral.
 
I would say, give it a try.
When the math has real world uses, it becomes more interesting(not easier),
but interesting my get you through it.
Beyond the math, Engineering is about the black box.
You are given an environment with known inputs, and desired outputs.
The job is to create a solution that converts the inputs to the desired outputs.
The black box is what you create to solve the problem.
It might a bridge across a river, or an algorithm to correct errors in a transmission.
good luck!
 
^ very well said.

As everyone has already stated, yes you need math and as long as you do pretty well on your courses and use it often it will be come second nature. It doesn't help that many physics courses don't use calculus anymore. Almost all courses employ a reduction to algebra nowadays.

You'll need to take Calculus 1,2,3 , Differential Equations, Linear Algebra Physics 1,2,3.
 
sandplasma said:
... It doesn't help that many physics courses don't use calculus anymore. Almost all courses employ a reduction to algebra nowadays...

Really? That doesn't even seem possible. But I've been out of the classroom for a long time.
 
Its quite difficult without a good math class, at least here, in Europe you do have deal with numbers most of your study..

Niaboc67 said:
I am not a perfect math student first off. Is there still a chance for to be an engineer? I am fascinating with mechanical things, especially industrial engineering and engineering in general. How could i better myself in this field, where should i start. And what level math am i required to know in order to be a proficient industrial engineer or general engineer? please the types of math I'd need to know.

Thank you!
 
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from the start of your career to the end you will be doing math problems. Problems that would take pages of equations and derivations to get to the answer. you can't avoid it. there are designers who deal with less math and get their degrees in two years, but they will pull of a job where ppl recognize them as engineers. They get paid well too.
 
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i used to hate maths before i got graduated, now i love them, when u start to work the maths you'll use will be simpler than college's
 

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