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The discussion revolves around beginner astronomy, specifically focusing on the use of binoculars for stargazing in light-polluted urban environments like New York City. Participants explore equipment recommendations, visibility of celestial objects, and resources for learning about astronomy.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the Celestron SkyMaster Giant 15x70 Binoculars will improve visibility of stars and planets due to their wide aperture, although they acknowledge uncertainty about specific visibility from NYC.
  • Another participant mentions that brighter planets like Venus and Jupiter should be visible even from the city, while noting the variability in brightness for Mars and Saturn.
  • There is a discussion about the comfort of using large binoculars, with questions raised about the need for a recliner and eye-correction adjustments.
  • One participant shares a resource for finding dark sky locations near NYC and recommends Stellarium as a useful astronomy program for identifying celestial objects.
  • A participant comments on the limitations of filters for light pollution, suggesting specific models for deep-sky observation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the effectiveness of binoculars in light-polluted areas and the visibility of specific celestial objects. There is no consensus on the best approach to dealing with light pollution or the comfort of using large binoculars.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various assumptions regarding visibility based on light pollution levels and personal experience, as well as the need for potential eye corrections when using binoculars.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in beginner astronomy, urban stargazing, and those seeking recommendations for binoculars and resources for learning about the night sky.

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Hey guys. I want to get started in looking at the night sky from my roof etc etc. I was thinking of getting Celestron SkyMaster Giant 15x70 Binoculars with a tripod as a starting tool which is only about $70-80. I don't want to buy a $4,000 telescope without knowing what I'm looking for lol.


I have two questions:

I live in New York City where light pollution is very apparent and you can only see a handful of stars. To anyone who is an expert in telescopes and binoculars, will these binoculars allow me to look at more stars or some of the planets in our solar system? If you have any other recommendations please let me know.


What's a good beginners astronomy book/guide which can teach me the locations of the basic constellations, galaxies stars etc that can be looked at in the night sky.
 
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The wide aperture of the binoculars will collect more light and will increase the number of stars you can see. I've never attempted to star gaze from a city, let alone New York, so I can't comment on what exactly you're likely to be able to see. The binoculars will be an improvement though.

http://www.jshine.net/astronomy/dark_sky/index.php"
That is a good site for finding light pollution in your area. From NYC you have two relatively close choices for some dark skys. The Catskills should be a couple hours away, and I can attest they have pretty good skys. Then there is Cherry Springs, PA which is a dedicated dark skys park. I've yet to make it out there, but I've heard it one of, if not the, best night skys on the east coast.

Stellarium is a great, and free, astronomy program. Enter you location and it will display the night sky at any time. If you can use this on a laptop while you are using your binoculars it makes it pretty easy to learn where things are in the sky.
http://www.stellarium.org/"
 
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You should be able to see any of the brighter planets with a decent pair of binoculars even from the city. These regularly are brighter than many of the stars in the sky, with Venus and Jupiter never less than magnitude -3 and -1.6 respectively. In comparison, Sirius is magnitude -1.46. (Smaller numbers are brighter, and -1.6 and -3 are both smaller than -1.46)

Saturn and Mars are less bright so I can't comment on them. Mars varies from -3 to +1.6, while Saturn varies from about 0 to +1.
 
Are the big binos comfortable to use, or will you need a recliner to get behind them ? Some models, IIRC, have 45' offset to mitigate the neck-crick...

Another factor, IIRC, is eye-correction. Do your eyes need correction for long or short vision ? Usually, good binos can slightly adjust their eye-pieces independently to match.

One 'gotcha' is astigmatism, where one or both eyes require 'cylindrical' correction. IIRC, you can get corrector lenses for telescopes' eye pieces, but I don't know about binos...

Uh, do you have a 'serious' SLR telephoto lens handy ? I'm told you can fit an adapter plus a telescope eye-piece or adapted web-cam...
 
There is no perfect filter to deal with light pollution. The best filters for dso viewing are Orion Ultrablock and Lumicon UHC, IMO.
 

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