What Is This Strange Light in the Night Sky?

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The discussion revolves around the identification of a mysterious light observed in the night sky, with participants exploring various possibilities regarding its nature. The inquiry includes aspects of astronomy, observational techniques, and potential explanations for the observed phenomena.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes observing a light that initially appeared to be a plane, noting it had a larger light with flashing lights behind it and moved slowly.
  • Another participant suggests that more details, such as location and specific time, would be helpful for identification.
  • Some participants question whether the object is actually moving or if it is an optical illusion caused by the rotation of the Earth.
  • One participant proposes that the light could be Venus, especially given its visibility during the time of year.
  • Another participant mentions the possibility of the observed light being a satellite, noting that some satellites can appear to blink or change brightness.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the identification of the light, with one participant pointing out that the description of flashing lights does not align with typical observations of Venus.
  • There is a discussion about the movement of planets relative to stars, with some participants noting that planets do not move visibly in the short term.
  • One participant expresses frustration over the original poster not returning to the discussion for further clarification.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views regarding the identity of the light, with some suggesting it could be Venus or a satellite, while others remain skeptical and highlight inconsistencies in the observations. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the nature of the light.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of additional observational details, such as location and time, which are currently missing. There is also uncertainty about the effects of atmospheric conditions on the visibility of the object.

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Hi I am a new member,

I felt compelled to find a forum to talk about what i have been watching in the night sky.

I have been watching the sky most evening now for the last couple of weeks, since one Saturday evening around 12pm I noticed what at first sight looked like a plane siting in the sky and hardly moving. When looking at it through my binnocular there seem to be one larger light with flashing lights to the back of it, then I noticed that it did very slowly move, today i noticed this thing at dusk it was in the sky and I also noticed the moon looked quite large and very bright. What ever it is, it seems to been in the sky most nights in the same position. Please help me identify this star looking thing as it is driving me mad because i know it is not a star...any ideas anyone.
 
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needs more details like location specific time etc and maybe picture :)
 
Are you sure that it's moving? What's it moving relative to? The other stars or the planet? If it's moving with respect to the stars but is constant on the horizon, that implies that it's on Earth, not in the air. A cell tower will appear to move very slowly if the only thing in the background is the star field, which moves as the Earth rotates.
 
The inner planets, esp. Venus can be seen pretty well these days.

And here's a website where you can track satellites.
http://www.satview.org/?sat_id=25544U
It's a link from another member and I've never adjusted the "home location" which might affect the notation of times.
 
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I'm pretty sure this was Venus. If you have a smart phone, you can download a good astronomy app that can identify it for you. I did that with my Distant Suns app on my iPhone.

You'll also be able to get the objects RA and DE values. Venus appears roughly WSW when viewed at around 6pm. Details on its RA and Dec are found here:

https://theskylive.com/venus-tracker
 
It could be Venus, but that doesn't explain how the OP identifies
"one larger light with flashing lights to the back of it".

Possibly could be distortions caused by local atmosphere condition?
 
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jane ellis said:
Hi I am a new member,

I felt compelled to find a forum to talk about what i have been watching in the night sky.

I have been watching the sky most evening now for the last couple of weeks, since one Saturday evening around 12pm I noticed what at first sight looked like a plane siting in the sky and hardly moving. When looking at it through my binnocular there seem to be one larger light with flashing lights to the back of it, then I noticed that it did very slowly move, today i noticed this thing at dusk it was in the sky and I also noticed the moon looked quite large and very bright. What ever it is, it seems to been in the sky most nights in the same position. Please help me identify this star looking thing as it is driving me mad because i know it is not a star...any ideas anyone.

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needs more details like location specific time etc and maybe picture :)

indeed and also direction ... to north, south, east or western sky ??Dave
 
Slowly (but still notably) moving objects can be satellites. The ISS is the brightest one but that is not blinking. Some satellites and rocket stages are tumbling and changing their brightness with periods between 1 and ~60 seconds, those are quite dim - some are visible to the naked eye, with binoculars many more are visible. They are not very prominent, so tracking them from day to day without an orbit calculation is not very plausible.

Planets don't move visibly relative to stars, and the viewing conditions have to be really bad for them to flicker.
 
Folks, the OP left here one minute after posting this, and hasn't been back since.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
Folks, the OP left here one minute after posting this, and hasn't been back since.
Yes, but the Venus tracker has been new to me. And I always thought that the movement of planets could be detected over a few hours so I have been surprised by the remark in #8. So it wasn't totally useless.
 
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~4 degrees per day (1 moon diameter per 3 hours) relative to the stars at its closest approach, ~9 degrees per day (1 moon diameter in 1.5 hours) at its furthest point - but in those cases it is in the direction of sun. If it is slightly behind or ahead of us, when it is better visible (=its current location), its motion relative to the stars is much slower, sometimes going to nearly zero.

Anyway, planets are incompatible with "I noticed that it did very slowly move" plus "it seems to been in the sky most nights in the same position".

I guess we can't figure out what it is without more input from @jane ellis.
 
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mfb said:
Anyway, planets are incompatible with "I noticed that it did very slowly move" plus "it seems to been in the sky most nights in the same position".

the moving slowly could have been just the Earth rotation who knows ?

yet another thread where the poster bails on us :frown::rolleyes:

over days to weeks the movement becomes very noticeable for Mercury, Venus, Mars and Jupiter

During 2016, it was pretty cool to watch Mars wander back and forward across the sky as it moved in and out of the constellation of Scorpio several times and then finally move back through Scorpio and into SagittariusDave
 
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