International Certifications in Physics

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The discussion centers around the possibility of obtaining international certifications in Physics as a pathway to pursuing a Master's degree in Physics, particularly for individuals without a traditional background in engineering or mathematics. Participants explore the feasibility of alternative routes to graduate education in Physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about recognized international certifications in Physics that could facilitate entry into a Master's program.
  • Another participant questions whether the original poster is seeking to bypass the requirement of a bachelor's degree.
  • A participant expresses concern about the lack of a bachelor's degree, emphasizing the necessity of foundational knowledge in calculus and abstract mathematics for success in a Master's program.
  • Some participants suggest that the Physics GRE is not a substitute for a bachelor's degree but rather an additional evaluation tool.
  • One participant shares their experience of obtaining an MS in Physics without a BS in Physics, highlighting the importance of completing the necessary coursework.
  • There is a suggestion for the original poster to consider night school courses to gain the required knowledge and credits.
  • Another participant questions the logic of pursuing a Master's degree without first obtaining a bachelor's degree.
  • Some participants acknowledge that life circumstances can change, leading individuals to pursue different educational paths later in life.
  • A later reply asserts that there are no recognized certifications that would serve as a bridge to a Master's program in the US.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the necessity of a bachelor's degree for pursuing a Master's in Physics. While some emphasize the importance of foundational coursework, others share personal experiences that suggest alternative pathways may exist. Overall, the discussion remains unresolved regarding the viability of certifications as a legitimate route to graduate education in Physics.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for a strong grasp of undergraduate-level material, but there is no consensus on whether certifications could adequately prepare someone for a Master's program. The discussion reflects varying personal experiences and opinions on educational pathways.

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Hi,

I wanted to know if there are good/recognized international certifications in Physics that can be a bridge for doing MS Physics after that.

I am not from the engineering or Mathematics/Physics background, but extremely interested in Physics/Mathematics.

I want to do MS Physics if possible after this certification(s).

Please advise.

Thanks...Cheers...Karthik Sridharan.
 
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Are you asking if there is a way to circumvent getting a bachelor's degree?
 
Thanks lisab for your question. I do not mean to disrespect the whole lot that has gone through the grueling phase of 4 yrs BS physics. I cannot do the same since I'm 33 now and cannot go for full-time BS Physics.

If there is no certifications type routes, I am thinking of preparing the topics required for Physics GRE and show that I am confident enough to take MS Physics.

Please advise.

Thanks...
 
You need a bachelor's degree just to be able to grasp the stuff you'll learn in a master of physics. Regardless of the field.
If you could do it without (i.e. be a genius), you should make an arrangement that you make the exams without studying full time, just the exams. I doubt you will make it.

You need a firm grasp of both calculus and abstract maths to start on a master's course. Especially in theoretical physics.

I urge you to do some more research. To study all stuff learned in a bachelor's degree you will need a lot of time.
 
Yeah, there aren't really any substitutes I'm afraid.

The PGRE is not a substitute for a bachelor's degree. It's meant to serve as an additional evaluation tool to account for differences in undergraduate programs in terms of grading and relative ranking of students within their classes.

Your best bet is to start taking courses in night school or something like that. If you're committed to learing this stuff anyway, you might as well get credit for it.
 
I'd agree with Choppy... night school courses.

I managed to get an MS in physics without having a BS in physics... but I did have a BS in engineering, and I ended up taking most of the upper division undergraduate physics courses before applying for an MS through a program the local state school has called "Open University".

You don't need a BS in physics, per se... but you *do* need the physics course work that a BS entails.
 
Why not do bachelors if you want to do masters? i don't get the logic.
 
Plans change and you develop other interests.

The OP said he is 33. I was in my 40's when I got my MS after many years in the computer industry.

I agree, it makes no sense to get a bachelor's degree in one subject and then immediately switch to an MS in another field. But that's not what is being discussed here.
 
ksridh said:
Hi,

I wanted to know if there are good/recognized international certifications in Physics that can be a bridge for doing MS Physics after that.

I am not from the engineering or Mathematics/Physics background, but extremely interested in Physics/Mathematics.

I want to do MS Physics if possible after this certification(s).

Please advise.

Thanks...Cheers...Karthik Sridharan.

There is no such thing.

If you are thinking of going to graduate school in the US, you may want to start by reading this:

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=64966

Zz.
 

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