Interpreting a banked circular motion question

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving banked circular motion, specifically analyzing the forces acting on a suitcase on a baggage carousel. The scenario includes parameters such as the radius of the circular path, the coefficient of static friction, and the angle of the slope.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to interpret the role of static friction in the context of the problem, questioning whether it is necessary given that the suitcase is not sliding. They also explore the relationship between the forces acting on the suitcase and the geometry of the carousel.

Discussion Status

Participants have provided feedback indicating that the original poster's reasoning is on the right track. There is an acknowledgment of the potential confusion regarding the role of friction, with some suggesting that it may not be necessary if the normal force is adequate for centripetal acceleration. The discussion includes considerations of the carousel's design and how it affects the forces involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of the coefficient of static friction and the angle of the slope, while also discussing the implications of the carousel's design on the forces acting on the suitcase. There is an ongoing exploration of how these factors interact in the context of the problem.

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Hello,

I think I know how to do this question, but i'd really like to check that I'm interpreting what the question means correctly.

Homework Statement



The drawing shows a baggage carousel at the airport. Your suitcase has not slid all the way down the slope and is going around at a constant speed on a circle (r = 11.0m) as the carousel turns. The coefficient of static friction between the suitcase and the carousel is 0.760 and the angle θ of the slope is 36°. How much time is required for your suitcase to go around once?

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The Attempt at a Solution



I can't provide the picture, but it is simply a cone with a slope of 36° to the horizontal with a suitcase partway down the sloped surface.

The question provides a coefficient of static friction but since the suitcase isn't moving relative to the carousel, surely there's no friction, right?


I've drawn free body diagrams and summed my forces in the x and y direction which all boil down to tanθ = v2 / rg Which is easily solvable for v and then simple enough to find time period T.

I'm just a bit worried that I haven't used the information about friction in the question, but I can't actually see a reason to...

Thanks!
 
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You have done it correctly .If the normal force is sufficient to provide the required centripetal acceleration as well as balance the weight,then friction doesn't come in picture .
 
Awesome, I imagine the coefficient of friction is there to try and catch us out :)

Thank you.
 
Tanya Sharma said:
You have done it correctly .If the normal force is sufficient to provide the required centripetal acceleration as well as balance the weight,then friction doesn't come in picture .
If it's anything like the carousels I'm familiar with, it's a cone, not an inverted cone. The slope is the wrong way to provide centripetal acceleration. The static friction is necessary not only to provide the acceleration but also overcome the adverse camber.
 
Yes, it's a standard carousel and it does make sense about the slope being the wrong way.

fmax = μs fN

Does this act perpendicular to the normal force in the opposite direction of mgsinθ?

And then I need to resolve in the usual manner
 
BOAS said:
Yes, it's a standard carousel and it does make sense about the slope being the wrong way.

fmax = μs fN

Does this act perpendicular to the normal force in the opposite direction of mgsinθ?

And then I need to resolve in the usual manner

Yes.
 

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