Interstellar space travel and reference frames

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The discussion revolves around a spacecraft traveling to a star 10 light years away, focusing on relativistic effects and the aging of an astronaut during the journey. The problem involves calculating the speed of the spacecraft relative to Earth and the energy required for acceleration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the conversion of light years to kilometers and the calculation of speed using the formula v = d/t. There are questions about the correctness of unit conversions and the implications of relativistic speeds. Some participants suggest using relativistic equations to relate time and distance in different reference frames.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning assumptions about unit conversions and the applicability of classical mechanics versus relativistic mechanics. There is a recognition that the problem requires a deeper understanding of relativistic effects, and some guidance has been offered regarding the use of different reference frames.

Contextual Notes

There are concerns about the accuracy of time conversion and the potential for calculated speeds to exceed the speed of light, prompting a reevaluation of the approach. The discussion also references similar problems in the context of muon decay, indicating a potential resource for understanding the concepts involved.

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Homework Statement


A spacecraft with its astronaut has a total mass at rest of 10^5 kg. The astronaut is to travel to a star 10 light years away at a speed such that she only ages 1 year in her frame of reference
a) the quantity 1-v/c where v is her speed with respect to Earth is?
b) the total energy required to accelerate the spacecraft from rest to this velocity in units of 10^22 Joules is?

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



1 year = 356 days = 1.89 x 10^9
I tried converting 10 light years into km
Then tried using v = d/t to find V
 
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Hi sr57,

sr57 said:

Homework Statement


A spacecraft with its astronaut has a total mass at rest of 10^5 kg. The astronaut is to travel to a star 10 light years away at a speed such that she only ages 1 year in her frame of reference
a) the quantity 1-v/c where v is her speed with respect to Earth is?
b) the total energy required to accelerate the spacecraft from rest to this velocity in units of 10^22 Joules is?

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



1 year = 356 days = 1.89 x 10^9
I tried converting 10 light years into km
Then tried using v = d/t to find V

You did not say what units you converted a year to, but I don't think it's 1.89 x 10^9 seconds.

What did you find when you calculated v using your method? If you change 10 light years into meters, and convert a year into seconds, it looks like your equation will give a speed larger than the speed of light (greater than 3 x 10^8), which indicates this approach will not work.

Here the speed will be large enough that you need to incorporate relativistic effects into your approach.
 
Using relativistic approach:

T = To/square root of (1-v^2/c^2)

T = 10 light years x speed of light/ V --> I'm not sure abt this

To = 1 year = 3.15 z 10^7 seconds

I don't know how to find V when i substitute the numbers
 
sr57 said:
Using relativistic approach:

T = To/square root of (1-v^2/c^2)

T = 10 light years x speed of light/ V --> I'm not sure abt this

No, that can't be correct because it doesn't have the right units. (time on the left side, distance on the right)

But now that you have the time interval T in the Earth frame of reference, and the length in the Earth frame, you can use your original equation d=vT.


As an alternative, you could have kept everything in the astronaut's frame of reference. You have the time interval To, and you could find the length in his reference frame (it will be contracted). Then you could use d=vT in that reference frame.


This problem is much like the discussion on muon decay which your textbook probably covers; it might be a good idea to read over that to see how they calculate the same motion in two different reference frames.
 

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