Intro to Analysis and Groups textbooks

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The discussion centers on recommendations for textbooks related to introductory analysis and group theory, specifically in the context of an upcoming course. Participants share their experiences with various texts and express concerns about the quality of the course textbook, 'An Introduction to Analysis' by W R Wade.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the current edition and potential new editions of Wade's textbook, expressing concern over its reviews.
  • Another participant suggests several alternative textbooks for analysis, including Dieudonné, Pfaffenberger/Johnsonbaugh, Bartle, and Kolmogorov/Fomin, noting that they have not encountered a book that combines analysis with group theory.
  • A different participant mentions that while they are not fond of Wade, they believe it covers necessary topics, and recommends 'Fundamentals of Mathematical Analysis' by P. Sally, which is forthcoming.
  • One participant critiques Wade's treatment of certain topics, suggesting 'A Radical Approach to Real Analysis' for its historical context and emphasis on uniform convergence.
  • Another participant recommends 'Understanding Analysis' by Abbott, citing its intuitive approach, while also suggesting it be supplemented with 'A Radical Approach to Real Analysis'.
  • 'Analysis: With An Introduction to Proofs' by Steven Lay is recommended as a solid introductory text, particularly for its foundational approach.
  • Rudin is mentioned as a standard text, but one participant suggests it may be too advanced, recommending Lang's 'Undergraduate Analysis' instead, though they have not used it personally.
  • Another participant shares their positive experience with Lang's book, while noting some criticisms regarding the lack of common theorem names and illustrations.
  • A free resource, 'Elementary Real Analysis', is highlighted for its motivational approach to theory, despite some noted limitations in later sections.
  • Artin is recommended for abstract algebra, indicating a separate interest in that area.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of opinions on the effectiveness of different textbooks, with no consensus on a single recommended text. Disagreements exist regarding the quality and comprehensiveness of Wade's textbook and the suitability of various alternatives.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the adequacy of certain textbooks for covering both analysis and group theory, and there are mentions of limitations in the treatment of specific topics within the recommended texts.

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I am doing an introductory analysis and groups course next semester and I have a couple of questions about books. The course textbook is 'An introduction to Analysis' by W R Wade. Can anyone tell me if/when a new edition is expected and if not, what the current edition of the book is? I tried googling but couldn't see anything.

Also, I looked on amazon and this book has less than satisfactory reviews. This was similar to the reviews about the course textbook i had for probability, but in the end i found the book good. So just wondering: what introductory analysis/groups textbooks would you recommend, that you have perhaps found good when you did a similar course etc..

Many thanks.
 
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Does anyone have any recommendations at all?
 
it might just be that this sort of question comes up a lot. the contents aren't on amazon but judging by the reviews it looks like you're looking for a book that covers the same sort of stuff as small rudin. so how about
dieudonne
pfaffenberger/johnsonbaugh
bartle
kolmogorov/fomin

i've never heard of an analysis book that also does group theory, I learned that from general algebra books. i guess you could try either one by herstein. his "topics" book is a bit more advanced.
 
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Thanks for your reply. Sorry, I meant separate books on analysis and groups. I'll check out your suggestions now. Thanks!
 
I am not a huge fan of Wade, but you will learn the things that you need from there. If you really want an analysis book that covers some basic group theory, the text Fundamentals of Mathematical Analysis by P. Sally is great. It does not come out until March though.
 
I learned it from Wade. It was okay, but kind of butchered some topics in my opinion, like the implicit function theorem, which is much more natural with better motivation.

The only other book I have read (though not cover to cover) that covers that stuff is A Radical Approach to Real Analysis, which is good for historical motivation, although perhaps, you might take the history with a grain of salt. One of the nice things here is that you learn how central uniform convergence is to the purpose of the subject, since it guarantees that your series or sequence can be integrated or differentiated term by term. You'll get that from any good analysis class to some degree, but it the point was driven home particularly well here. It conveys what analysis is good for and how it fits in with other things that you might care about, like Fourier series.

From what I have heard, if I had my memory erased and was forced to learn analysis from scratch, I would definitely go with Understanding Analysis, by Abbott. Sounds like sort of a well-motivated and intuitive approach, although this is just judging from second-hand information, since I haven't read it. And I would maybe supplement it with A Radical Approach to Real Analysis.
 
"Analysis: With An Introduction to Proofs" by Steven Lay is a very good beginning analysis text in my opinion. My university used it for an "analysis bridge" course and I thought it did a great job of setting the foundation for a rigorous analysis class. Check it out here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0131481010/?tag=pfamazon01-20

I wish you would've posted this last month because I just sold my copy back to Amazon for $67. I would've given a PFer a huge discount since I was just making space on my bookshelf.
 
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Rudin is pretty standard for introductory real analysis, but is probably too slick for optimal learning. Besides, it seems that Wade works in substantially less generality than Rudin (i.e. on the real line and later in Euclidean space rather than in metric spaces). Perhaps try Lang's Undergraduate Analysis, it looks comparable and better. Disclaimer: I haven't used this book myself, but it's Lang and the table of contents looks promising.
 
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From what I have heard, if I had my memory erased and was forced to learn analysis from scratch, I would definitely go with Understanding Analysis, by Abbott. Sounds like sort of a well-motivated and intuitive approach, although this is just judging from second-hand information, since I haven't read it. And I would maybe supplement it with A Radical Approach to Real Analysis.

I am a big fan of Abbott's Understanding Analysis. However, there is a very good free analysis book here:

Elementary Real Analysis (2nd Edition), B. S. Thomson, A. M. Bruckner, and J. B. Bruckner
http://www.classicalrealanalysis.info/com/FREE-PDF-DOWNLOADS.php

It takes the time to motivate the theory pretty well. The later sections (on Calculus in R^n) fall down a bit trying hard to avoid using linear algebra, but the first half is solid (except for some typos).

As you will see in lots of other threads, I recommend Pinter for anyone starting abstract algebra.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0486474178/?tag=pfamazon01-20
 
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Oh, and for algebra, I recommend Artin.
 
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I used Lang's Undergraduate Analysis and I liked it at the time. My professor complained several times that he does not give the common names of many theorems (this is probably because so many theorems are attributed to the wrong names!). There are very few pictures. Generally I preferred the first half of the book to the second half because it was easier for me to understand. But that might just be because the latter half is just harder to learn.
 

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