Intro to Astronomy & Astrophysics

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The discussion revolves around the evaluation of the textbook "Introductory Astronomy & Astrophysics" by Zeilik and Gregory, particularly its relevance and accuracy given its publication date in 1998. Participants express concerns about potential errors in the book and consider alternative texts for studying astronomy and astrophysics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the suitability of the Zeilik and Gregory book due to its age and mentions that the field has changed significantly since its publication.
  • Another participant recommends "Modern Astrophysics" by Carroll and Ostlie as a good overview text, noting its relevance despite being somewhat dated.
  • A later reply suggests that while older texts can cover basic material, they often lack adequate coverage of recent advancements in cosmology.
  • Several participants list alternative textbooks, including "Fundamental Astronomy" and "The Physical Universe" by Shu, while acknowledging that some of these texts may also be outdated.
  • One participant mentions that their classes recommend having multiple texts, including Zeilik/Gregory and Carroll/Ostlie, but expresses a preference for Carroll/Ostlie due to its perceived quality.
  • Concerns are raised about the "hand wavy" nature of Zeilik/Gregory's explanations compared to other texts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the suitability of the Zeilik and Gregory book, with some expressing concerns about its accuracy and others defending its use alongside other texts. Multiple competing views on the best resources for studying astronomy and astrophysics remain present.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the field of astronomy and astrophysics has evolved, which may affect the relevance of older texts. There is also mention of a lack of satisfactory low-level texts specifically addressing cosmology.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students and educators in astronomy and astrophysics seeking recommendations for textbooks and resources, as well as those interested in understanding the evolution of the field and its literature.

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Introductory Astronomy & Astrophysics by Zeilkik and Gregory 4th edition.

What are your opinions on this book?

As far as I know the field has changed dramatically over the years and I was wondering if I should get a better or newer book since it was published in 98. I also heard it had a lot of errors in it.
 
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I haven't used their book, but I will recommend Carrol and Ostlie's book Modern Astrophysics (or Modern Stellar Astrophysics which is just the first half of the other book, otherwise the same). Its a very good overview text.
 
franznietzsche said:
I haven't used their book, but I will recommend Carrol and Ostlie's book Modern Astrophysics (or Modern Stellar Astrophysics which is just the first half of the other book, otherwise the same). Its a very good overview text.

Agreed. Consider also:

http://www.uscibooks.com/shu1.htm"

This one's by Frank Shu. It's a bit dated, but has been shown to be quite good for graduate students reviewing the basic material for their general exams. Most of the basics of astronomy and astrophysics can be learned from older texts. I find the main downfall of older review texts (including Carroll & Ostlie) is their poor coverage of cosmology. The field has exploded in recent times, so you might want to consider getting a separate book that deals only with cosmology. I've yet to see a text that does a satisfactory job of this at a low level, so if anyone else has a suggestion...
 
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My list is not much different
Introductory Astronomy & Astrophysics by Zeilik, Gregory & Smith
Fundamental Astronomy by Karttunen, Kroger, Oja, Poutanen & Donner
The Physical Universe, An Introduction to Astronomy by Shu
My only gripe about Shu is it's a bit outdated.
 
My classes have recommended having all of Zeilik/Gregory, Caroll/Ostlie and Shu.

The only one I have is C/O though. It's pretty much the standard. Plus it cost me $C200. Great book though. A little on the old side but still very solid.

Zeilik/Gregory is a little on the hand wavy side I think.
 

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