Introductory Statistical Mechanics - counting number of microstates

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The problem involves a system of two harmonic oscillators with different frequencies and a total energy expressed in terms of a positive odd integer. Participants are tasked with determining the number of microstates corresponding to various values of this integer.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the number of microstates based on energy levels and presents a table of values for different integers. Some participants question the constraints on the integer values and the correctness of the energy expressions used.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the validity of the assumptions regarding the integer values and the energy equations. There is a recognition of potential discrepancies in the problem statement and the interpretations being made, but no consensus has been reached.

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There is mention of the lecturer's guidance regarding the treatment of energy terms, and some participants express confusion over the implications of the problem statement, particularly concerning the confinement to odd integers.

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Homework Statement



Consider a system composed of 2 harmonic oscillators with frequencies w and 2w respectively (w = omega). The total energy of the system is U=q * h_bar * w, where q is a positive negative integer, ie. q = {1, 3, 5, ...}.

Write down the number of microstates of the system for each value of q.

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The Attempt at a Solution



The energy of the first harmonic oscillator with frequency w is: E_1 = j1 * h_bar * w.
The energy of the second harmonic oscillator with frequency 2w is: E_2 = 2 * j2 * h_bar * w.

So now the total energy of the system is given by U = (j1 + 2j2) * h_bar * w = q * h_bar * w.

Say q = 1. So there's only1 microstate for this energy level because 1) my lecturer said that j1, j2 are integers and can represent the number of particles the harmonic oscillator, and by writing out a table for values of j1 and 2j2 we just get:

| j1 | 2j2|
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| 1 | 0 |
----------

Now say q = 3. By writing out the table of possible microstates we get the table:

| j1 | 2j2|
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| 3 | 0 |
| 1 | 2 |
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So for q=3, there are 2 possible microstates of the system. Repeating this a few more times, I get a table which looks like this:

(let g = number of microstates for energy q)

| q | g |
--------
| 1 | 1 |
| 3 | 2 |
| 5 | 3 |
| 6 | 4 |
| 7 | 5 |
. .
. .
--------

And so writing g(q) (number of microstates as a function of energy q) I get:

g(q) = CIELING(q/2)

However, this is apparently wrong according to my lecturer. Can someone see where I went wrong in my reasoning? Thanks
 
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I don't see why q would be confined to odd values. Also, your expression for the energy of the oscillators is incorrect. They should be
\begin{align*}
E_1 &= \hbar\omega(n_1 + 1/2) \\
E_2 &= 2\hbar\omega(n_2 + 1/2)
\end{align*}
where ni=0, 1, ...
 
Well the problem stated q as positive odd integers, and also my lecturer said we can ignore the 1/2h_bar * w term since all we're interested in is the difference in energy not E itself.
 
Clearly if j1=0 and j2=1, you'd have q=2, which isn't odd. Either the problem is wrong or you're not accurately conveying the original problem statement.
 

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