Intuition behind Centroids / Center of Mass

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The discussion centers on the mathematical formulation of the center of mass and centroid, specifically the necessity of multiplying coordinates by differential area (dA) or volume (dV) elements. The formula for the center of mass is established as M\bar{x}=∫xdm, where dm is defined as ρdV, with ρ representing mass density. The conclusion emphasizes that the centroid is the point where the moments due to the total mass balance with the moments from the distributed mass, clarifying the integration process involved in calculating these values.

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Hi all,

I've been digging around in Google as well as searching under physics forum for a while now but I still can't find the answer to my question. If there is already an answer then I'm sorry for wasting the server bandwith and database harddrive usage

I learned the formulation for center of mass/centroid a while ago but now it's popping up again and I'm wondering why, do we need to multiply x and y with dA or dV, then divide by dA or dV? I understand it's trying to find the average location of the center of mass or centroid but why, just by multiplying dA with x, then divide by dA will get you the location of the centroid / center of mass? And doesn't multiplying dA with x goes to the third dimension?

Perhaps, a better question to ask is, what is the purpose of intergal(x*dA)?
Thanks,
Paul
 
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paulclou said:
Hi all,

I've been digging around in Google as well as searching under physics forum for a while now but I still can't find the answer to my question. If there is already an answer then I'm sorry for wasting the server bandwith and database harddrive usage

I learned the formulation for center of mass/centroid a while ago but now it's popping up again and I'm wondering why, do we need to multiply x and y with dA or dV, then divide by dA or dV? I understand it's trying to find the average location of the center of mass or centroid but why, just by multiplying dA with x, then divide by dA will get you the location of the centroid / center of mass? And doesn't multiplying dA with x goes to the third dimension?

Perhaps, a better question to ask is, what is the purpose of intergal(x*dA)?
Thanks,
Paul

According to the difinition M\bar{x}=∫xdm, but we have dm=\rhodv where \rho is the mass density.

Therefore \bar{x}=\frac{∫ρxdv}{M}

in the above equations, M is the total mass which is equal to ∫ρdv.

Therefore, \bar{x}=\frac{∫xρdv}{∫ρdv}.

When ρ is constant, \bar{x}=\frac{∫xdv}{V}, where V is the total volume.

If you want to know about the meaning of the definition, it's like finding a point where the moment due to total mass on that point is equal to the sum of the moments due to the distributed mass.

I hope that helps.
 
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