Invariant element integrand

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the mathematical interpretation of the integrand ##d^4k## in the context of Lorentz four-vectors, particularly in relation to the Klein-Gordon field solution ##\varphi(x)##. Participants explore the equivalence of ##d^4k## and ##d^3k \ dk_0## and the implications of this relationship.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the validity of equating ##d^4k## with ##d^3k \ dk_0## and seeks clarification on the meaning of ##d^4k## as it pertains to a four-vector.
  • Another participant suggests that ##d^4k## represents the infinitesimal volume in the vector space spanned by ##k##.
  • A later reply proposes that ##d^4k## can be expressed as the wedge product ##dk_0 \wedge dk_1 \wedge dk_2 \wedge dk_3##, indicating a potential misunderstanding in the literature regarding the notation.
  • One participant asserts that the interpretation of the volume element is not a mistake but rather a matter of context and proper notation interpretation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the integrand and the notation used in the literature. There is no consensus on whether the book's interpretation is incorrect or merely context-dependent.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential ambiguities in the notation and the assumptions underlying the interpretation of integrands in the context of four-vectors.

Tio Barnabe
Let ##k## be a Lorentz four-vector. The integrand ##d^4k## is the same as ##d^3 k \ dk_0##. Why is this true?
##k_0## is the first component of ##k##. So how are we allowed for equating the two integrands?

Just to add context, this situation happens during the construction of the integral for the Klein-Gordon field solution "##\varphi(x)##".
 
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What does ##d^4 k## mean if ##k## is a four-vector?

(You should be able to answer this easily if you know what ##d^3 k## means if ##k## is a Euclidean 3-vector.)
 
PeterDonis said:
What does ##d^4 k## mean if ##k## is a four-vector?
The infinitesimal volume in the vector space spanned by ##k##?

Would it be useful to consider wedge product here? Or is it unnecessary?
 
Uhuuuul, I think I realized. ##d^4 k = dk_0 \wedge dk_1 \wedge dk_2 \wedge dk_3##. Is it?

If so, then calling the remaining volume element of ##d^3 k \ dk_0## is a mistake of my book, because we should discriminate between ##k = (k_0, k_1, k_2, k_3)## and, say, ##\bf{k}## ## = (k_1, k_2, k_3)##.
 
Tio Barnabe said:
If so, then calling the remaining volume element of ##d^3 k \ dk_0## is a mistake of my book, because we should discriminate between ##k = (k_0, k_1, k_2, k_3)## and, say, ##\bf{k}## ## = (k_1, k_2, k_3)##.
It's not a mistake, it's just that you're being expected to interpret the notation properly based on the context.
 

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