Undergrad How Is the Ion Lattice Approximation Justified in Electron Dynamics?

Click For Summary
The discussion addresses the justification for using the ion lattice approximation in electron dynamics, which simplifies the many-body electron problem by treating electrons as interacting within a periodic lattice of positive ion cores. This approach assumes that nuclei are fixed at their equilibrium positions, known as the "crude adiabatic approximation." The more refined "adiabatic approximation" considers the momentary positions of the nuclei when solving the electronic problem. The conversation also connects this approximation to the Born-Oppenheimer approximation, highlighting their relationship. The topic is further explored in Huang and Born's book on the dynamical theory of crystal lattices.
aaaa202
Messages
1,144
Reaction score
2
To solve the full many-body electron problem one often uses the approximation that the dynamics of the electron system, is that of N interacting electrons living in a periodic lattice of positive ion cores. What justifies this approximation and does it have a particular name?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
The approximation is here that the nuclei are assumed to be located at their equilibrium position. This is called the "crude adiabatic approximation". The "adiabatic approximation" (not the crude one) would solve the electronic problem for the momentaneous position of the nuclei.
 
okay is it related to the Born-Oppenheimer approximation?
 
Basically yes. This is discussed in the book by huang and born dynamical theory of crystal lattices which is also online
 
A relative asked me about the following article: Experimental observation of a time rondeau crystal https://www.nature.com/articles/s41567-025-03028-y I pointed my relative to following article: Scientists Discovered a Time Crystal That Reveals a New Way to Order Time https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/scientists-discovered-time-crystal-reveals-180055389.html This area is outside of my regular experience. I'm interested in radiation effects in polycrystalline material, i.e., grain...

Similar threads

  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 0 ·
Replies
0
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
4K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
4K
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
3K