Irrigation from artificial paving stones?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of designing paving stones that incorporate a reservoir system to manage water drainage in dry climates. Participants explore concepts related to irrigation, water retention, and the interaction between paving materials and grass growth.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a paving stone design that includes a reservoir beneath it to capture and gradually release water into the surrounding soil, aiming to create a green area interspersed with paving.
  • Suggestions include using pervious concrete or paving stones with channels and drain holes to facilitate water passage.
  • Concerns are raised about potential issues with stagnant water in the reservoir, such as mosquito breeding, suggesting that absorbent materials like sand or clay might be preferable.
  • Another participant supports the idea of permeable paving, emphasizing its role in capturing rainwater and reducing runoff, but notes potential drawbacks like heat retention in summer and snow accumulation in winter.
  • One participant references a video for additional insights, but another replies that the video does not address the specific question about integrating grass with paving stones.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the design and effectiveness of the proposed paving stone system. While some support the concept of permeable paving, others highlight specific challenges and limitations, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached a consensus on the optimal design or materials for the proposed paving stones, and there are unresolved questions regarding the effectiveness of different reservoir configurations and their impact on surrounding vegetation.

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Would it be possible to design a paving stone with a reservoir of some kind under it that would let water drain through the stone into the reservoir and then very gradually seep into the ground around the stone?

In a dry climate, the goal would be to create an area of a lawn that was part green and part paving. The paving stones would hopefully make better use of natural rain and (unnatural) watering by capturing water that would otherwise run off or evaporate and releasing it slowly underground. I'm visualize paving stones of about 1 ft x 1 ft and about the same area of grass in between them.


My thoughts on such a design:

The paving known as "pervious concrete" could be used for the paving stone itself, or one could cast as stone with channels around the edge and small drain holes in them to let water pass through.

A reservoir of only water under the stone might breed mosquitoes or bad odors. Perhaps the reservoir must actually be a bed of absorbent material like sand or clay.

A critical goal of the design is to slowly release water to the areas adjacent to the stone instead of losing the water by letting it percolate into the ground directly under the stone. The bottom and upper sides of the reservoir should be impervious to water. If the reservoir is concrete, perhaps those areas of the reservoir can be sealed.

I don't have a good intuiton for how quickly water would seep thorugh the unsealed parts of a concrete reservoir. (How fast you want the reservoir to empty would depend on the climate.) Do concrete swimming pools need a special coating to keep the water from seeping out? Or is the coating just to keep the concrete from getting into the water?

In some soils and climates, perhaps no elaborate reservoir is needed. Perhaps you could simply bury a relatively impervious slab of concrete 10 inches or so directly under the paving stone and accomplish the goal.

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My thoughts are just for a homeowner's type project. Anyone who wants to try this as an academic investigation or commercial venture is welcome to the idea.
 
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Permeable paving is an excellent idea. The objective is to capture the rain where it falls, rather than having it sluiced into gutters, producing damaging runoff that needs to be separately dealt with.
There is cement paving designed to achieve this, with holes in the pavers. The pavers also have ridges on them, to help ensure that the grass growing in the holes is not crushed too much by car tires. The only quibble is that in summer, the pavers tend to get pretty hot, which is not great for the grass, while in winter the surface traps snow and ice, so it is not easily plowed.
 

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