Is 8 Your Lucky Number and What Does It Mean?

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The discussion revolves around participants sharing their favorite numbers and the reasons behind their choices. Zero is highlighted for its utility in mathematics, while the number e is appreciated for its significance in differential equations. Aesthetically pleasing numbers like 8 and 42 are mentioned, with 8 noted for its visual symmetry and connection to infinity. The number 2 is discussed for its foundational role in mathematics, and 4-O-9 is recognized for its connection to fractals. Participants also touch on the beauty of the imaginary unit i and its implications in complex analysis. The conversation includes references to personal experiences with certain numbers, such as 39 and 711, and explores the mathematical properties of numbers and their cultural significance. Overall, the thread showcases a blend of mathematical appreciation and personal anecdotes related to favorite numbers.
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What is your favorite number and why? Is it lucky? Mathematically or aesthetically beautiful? Symbolic?
 
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Zero. It's just so dang useful.
 
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I would say ##e##. Sorry, this choice is not very original, but its profound connection with differential equations and time evolution in general does it for me.
 
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Number 8. I think that is aesthetically beautiful, can be turned upside - down and still recognize it and turn it 90 degrees to the left or right and lo and behold: infinity!
 
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42, of course!
 
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##2##. I've always been fascinated by ##2+2=2\cdot2=2^2##. In addition it is the first "real" number, Peano's start off if you like, the first example of a characteristic ##\neq 0 ##, the reason why we can discuss this here, and last but not least: I like my Fermions.

Edit: And of course 4-O-9.
 
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δ = 4.669201 ... Feigenbaum's constant. Got me interested in fractals in the late 1980's. Wrote lots of code, wasted lots of paper and printer toner. Had a ton of fun. Side effect: Had to learn postscript language run an Apple graphics printer. Which I still use sometimes. Piddling around can sometimes create the need to learn new things.

@QuantumQuest Isn't the analemma a kind of "sideways" eight as well?
 
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@QuantumQuest Isn't the analemma a kind of "sideways" eight as well?

Yes, but it is a diagram with the form of a slender figure-eight.
 
711! It must be really lucky.

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What is a Factorial?
A factorial is a function that multiplies a number by every number below it. For example 5!= 5*4*3*2*1=120. The function is used, among other things, to find the number of way “n” objects can be arranged.

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There are n! ways of arranging n distinct objects into an ordered sequence.
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In mathematics, there are n! ways to arrange n objects in sequence. "The factorial n! gives the number of ways in which n objects can be permuted."[1] For example:

  • 2 factorial is 2! = 2 x 1 = 2
    -- There are 2 different ways to arrange the numbers 1 through 2. {1,2,} and {2,1}.
  • 4 factorial is 4! = 4 x 3 x 2 x 1 = 24
    -- There are 24 different ways to arrange the numbers 1 through 4. {1,2,3,4}, {2,1,3,4}, {2,3,1,4}, {2,3,4,1}, {1,3,2,4}, etc.
  • 5 factorial is 5! = 5 x 4 x 3 x 2 x 1 = 120
  • 0 factorial is a definition: 0! = 1. There is exactly 1 way to arrange 0 objects.
Factorial Problem 1
How many different ways can the letters in the word “document” be arranged?

For this problem we simply take the number of letters in the word and find the factorial of that number. This works because
 
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Although probably not what the OP had in mind, I really like the imaginary unit i for its mathematical beauty.

Starting with the natural numbers, people have struggled with the expansion of the number system for centuries. Successive expansions can be put in a very elegant scheme, namely the introduction of new solutions to polynomial equations which didn't have solutions previously. For example the equation x + 1 = 0 doesn't have a solution using only natural numbers, but it has a solution if we introduce negative numbers.

Naturally, we may be interested in the question whether the process of inventing new numbers (negative numbers, fractions, irrationals, ...) comes to an end and it turns out it does. If we already have the real numbers, we mainly need to invent solutions for one additional type of polynomial equation: those where the square of x is a negative number. The easiest equation of this type is x^2 + 1 = 0 and its solution is called the imaginary unit i. So i kind of marks the end point of a long mathematical journey. (In technical terms, the complex numbers are said to be "algebraically closed".)

Viewed from a different angle, i allows us to treat the elements of the vector space \mathbb{R}^2 as numbers (more precisely we get the field of the complex numbers). This is really cool and remarkable and the additional structure leads to many powerful and beautiful theorems in complex analysis.
 
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The number 39 has recurred in my life. When I was growing up, my mum's house was number 39 and my grandmother's house was also 39 When I started work, my first place in Nottingham was number 39, and now in London I have the luxury of a shed out back for my bike, which is number 39.
 
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25, I love middle numbers (or numbers that end in 5) and it just so happened to be my jersey number when I was playing HS football.
 
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Here's another favorite number of mine:
$$ \omega = \inf_{ n \rightarrow \infty } \{ k \in \mathbb{R} \,\vert \, \text{ multiplications in }\mathbb{M}_n(\mathbb{R})\text{ can be done with } O(n^k) \text{ scalar multiplications } \}$$
 
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711! It must be really lucky.
Not sure about bringing good luck, but there's definitely convenience!
 
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I've always liked 64. It's just aesthetically nice to me, not to big or small and can be repeatedly halved to make integers all the way back to 1. There's nothing rational about that I admit lol. 72 feels nice too, again not a very large or small number but can be easily divided by 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9, 12, 18, 24 and 36.
 
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Not sure about bringing good luck, but there's definitely convenience!

711 implies convenience like the store. 711! is my lucky number but it is convenient to calculate it online nowadays. Poor Isaac Newton would have had to do it by hand. However, I've read that he enjoyed doing long tedious calculations.
 
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2, I honestly do not know why, but I've always liked that number ^^
 
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1. Simply because using it as the unit to count and measure has saved me time on a practical daily level. Without it, many simple things would take much longer and some things wouldn't be possible to do at all without a system to handle multiple things. What do other numbers mean without it? It is the backbone of modern civilization, really. A glorious number!
 
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. So i kind of marks the end point of a long mathematical journey. (In technical terms, the complex numbers are said to be "algebraically closed".)

Viewed from a different angle, i allows us to treat the elements of the vector space \mathbb{R}^2 as numbers (more precisely we get the field of the complex numbers). This is really cool and remarkable and the additional structure leads to many powerful and beautiful theorems in complex analysis.
So there are no unsolvable equations in the complex numbers? I don't think so. In fact I've brought up one previously:

Y<1
Y+X<=1
Solve for X (That works for all reals.)

The last time I brought this up people were using dodges that sounded a lot more like politics then math. (Hence the reals stipulation above. )

As for my favorite number. Well, zero is my hero. :) And there appears to me more then one kind of zero in the reals.
 
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jackwhirl said:
Zero. It's just so dang useful.

Algr said:
Well, zero is my hero. :)
Mort Walker fans? "Me?" 555, "The Triple Nickel."
 
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So there are no unsolvable equations in the complex numbers?
No polynomial equations, yes. The precise statement is given by the fundamental theorem of algebra.

Algr said:
Y<1
Y+X<=1
That's not an equation but a set of inequalities.
 
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Two.
 
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kith said:
That's not an equation but a set of inequalities

But it is the clearest way to describe the issue, and I'm sure you can see the intent.
 
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Algr said:
But it is the clearest way to describe the issue, and I'm sure you can see the intent.
No, I can't see what concerns you. The fundamental theorem of algebra tells us that every polynomial equation has a solution in the complex numbers. If we drop the constraint that our equation needs to be a polynomial equation, it is easy to construct examples which don't have a solution in the complex numbers. For example, \sin(|z|) = 2.

I don't see an issue here and I don't understand why you bring up inequalities in response to these statements about equations.

Also this is getting off topic. If you want to discuss it further, you should open a new thread or ask the mentors to fork our discussion from this thread.
 
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71
 
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##4##
 
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73
 
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##J = (7^{e - 1/e} - 9) \cdot \pi^{2} ##
 

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