Is a licence required to make isopropyl alcohol?

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The discussion revolves around whether a license is required to make isopropyl alcohol, specifically focusing on the legality of its production compared to other types of alcohol and substances. Participants explore various legal considerations, including local regulations and safety concerns related to chemical handling.

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  • Some participants suggest that making isopropyl alcohol is not illegal since it is not intended for consumption, and there may not be reporting requirements for excise taxes.
  • Others express uncertainty about the legality of producing isopropyl alcohol, citing that many substances have legal restrictions and questioning the general assumption that making anything is legal.
  • Concerns are raised about local fire ordinances and the importance of proper storage and labeling of chemicals, even for hobbyists.
  • One participant mentions that ignorance of the law is not a valid defense and emphasizes the complexity of legal regulations surrounding chemical production.
  • A later reply questions the relevance of the discussion without specifying the laws of a particular country, suggesting that legal status may vary significantly by location.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on whether a license is required to make isopropyl alcohol. Multiple competing views remain, with some asserting it is legal while others express caution and uncertainty regarding legal implications.

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The discussion highlights the lack of public knowledge regarding legal regulations and the potential for misunderstanding the legality of producing various substances, including isopropyl alcohol.

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Is a license required to make isopropyl alcohol? I know at times making alcohol can be illegal such as making it for drinking, but what about isopropyl?
 
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I don't think it is. Since is isn't for consumption there isn't any reporting requirement for excise taxes. There may be state or local regulations regarding environmental release of ... anything. Of course, depending on the method of manufacture, you might run afoul of some regulations but just having 2-propanol isn't illegal AFAIK.
 
Nutball said:
Is a license required to make isopropyl alcohol? I know at times making alcohol can be illegal such as making it for drinking, but what about isopropyl?

NO, why would making anything be illegal? As long as you don't steal the supplies, I would have a hard time understanding why it would be illegal. That's like asking "is making an automobile illegal?". Life is too short, so have fun. Make what you want to make.
 
sodium.dioxid said:
NO, why would making anything be illegal?

What about methamphetamine? Or LSD?
 
You may have local fire ordinances to consider, although I doubt hobbyists would have enough material for them to be of concern.

I would recommend being sure to store whatever (legal) chemicals you have in an appropriate environment and clearly labeled. I can't seem to find it at the moment, but there was this news item somewhat recently about a family needing to dispose of a deceased family member's home laboratory that was not in very good shape.
 
I just wasn't sure because plenty of things are illegal to make like bombs and drugs, and who knows what else is illegal to make without a licence. It is a simple and safe process(if you know what you're doing) to make isopropyl alcohol. My intended use for it is as fuel.
 
There are more rules and laws than any of us can count. If you make a mistake, just say "I didn't know". I don't know how people are expected to know the law when no classes are provided to the public. It's like we are supposed to know these things the moment we exit the womb.
 
sodium.dioxid said:
There are more rules and laws than any of us can count. If you make a mistake, just say "I didn't know". I don't know how people are expected to know the law when no classes are provided to the public. It's like we are supposed to know these things the moment we exit the womb.

... seriously?
 
sodium.dioxid said:
There are more rules and laws than any of us can count. If you make a mistake, just say "I didn't know". I don't know how people are expected to know the law when no classes are provided to the public. It's like we are supposed to know these things the moment we exit the womb.

Ignorance is not a valid defense. Laws are available publicly to everyone.

Nutball, I would think that there would be some kind of law for making isoprobyl alcohol, but you'd have to check around to be sure.
 
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Pengwuino said:
... seriously?

Yes, seriously. Here's another one I bet you didn't know: you cannot park your vehicle within 5 inches of the parking lane, on either side. It is within total rights of a police officer to award you with a ticket (no, not a movie ticket), as stated in article 4 section 274 paragraph 3 line 17 in the book "How not be evil - citizens handbook to living life". It is called misconduct, lack of cooperation, and harassment. It depends on the mood of the police officer as to what combination of those three things he will charge you with (note that you can be charged for all three simultaneously). I was surprised just the way you are as you are reading this right now. I am so happy to learn this valuable lesson in life. I no longer have to worry about the fiery depths of you-know-where.

Pengwuino said:
Ignorance is not a valid defense.

I know. That's why I told them I was handicapped. They let me off the hook this time.
 
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sodium.dioxid said:
I know. That's why I told them I was handicapped. They let me off the hook this time.

That's atrocious.
 
  • #12
Borek said:
What about methamphetamine? Or LSD?

Isn't their synthesis legal in Poland? :smile:
Seriously, this whole discussion is quite pointless as long as it doesn't refer to the laws of a specified country.
 
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DrDu said:
Isn't their synthesis legal in Poland? :smile:

Last time I checked it wasn't. Somehow I doubt anything changed since then :wink:
 

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