Is an Online Degree in Physics Right for Me?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility and options for pursuing an online degree in physics, particularly for individuals who have a background in computer science and are currently employed. Participants explore various online programs, the challenges of laboratory requirements, and the adequacy of preparation for advanced studies in physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in pursuing a physics degree while managing a new job, questioning the suitability of online programs given their limited prior physics coursework.
  • Another participant suggests that a master's program may not be appropriate due to insufficient foundational physics knowledge, emphasizing the challenges of advanced topics like mechanics and electromagnetism.
  • Several participants mention the Open University in the UK as a notable option for online physics degrees, but raise concerns about the adequacy of their laboratory offerings.
  • One participant notes that while online introductory physics courses may use remote lab kits, advanced programs typically require more extensive lab work, which may not be feasible online.
  • Another participant highlights the lack of accredited online physics degree programs in the US, attributing this to low demand and the high costs of developing such programs.
  • Some participants discuss specific online master's programs, such as those offered by Texas A&M and Johns Hopkins, noting their focus and potential limitations regarding laboratory experiences.
  • Concerns are raised about how online programs might handle lab components, with speculation that they may rely on computer simulations or assignments rather than traditional lab work.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the challenges of finding suitable online physics degree programs, particularly regarding laboratory requirements. However, there is no consensus on the adequacy of existing programs or the best path forward for someone with a computer science background.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the rigor of online programs, particularly in relation to laboratory work and the depth of mathematical prerequisites. There are also concerns about the overall competitiveness of applicants with limited physics coursework.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals considering an online degree in physics, particularly those with a background in computer science or related fields, and those balancing work commitments with educational aspirations.

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I currently have a degree in computer science and minor in math, and I am about to start a new job doing web development. I have started my own personal project building a physics engine in C++ and OpenGL. It is a lot of fun doing applied maths. I would like to get a degree in physics. The problem is that I will be working all day, and physics classes and labs at a near by university seem to happen morning and mid day.

The masters program seems to have classes at night, which would work, but I only took one calculus based physics course.

Does anyone have any suggestions on great online degree programs for physics? Also, I would like to ensure that the degree is extremely thorough. Since I have a degree in computer science, should I go straight for a Masters Program in Physics instead?
 
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The Open University in the UK was one of the pioneers in online degrees, and by now there are many good options. If you had only one real physics course, there's no way you should apply to a Master program. You will be non-competitive at admissions, and lost once classes begin. Don't underestimate the difficulty of junior-level mechanics, E&M, quantum mechanics and stat mech. You might feel comfortable skipping the first year of physics, and your math minor may stand you in good stead. (You'll need ODE and PDE, complex variables, and linear algebra). You can gauge your level by looking at textbooks in the university library for the courses you are considering.
 
The only online physics bachelor's degree program that I've ever seen mentioned here (that I can remember) is the one at the Open University in the UK.

The biggest hurdle to a full physics degree is probably the need for laboratory work. It's possible to teach an introductory physics course online using pre-packaged laboratory kits shipped to the student. The college where I retired from offers such a course during the summer, but it's an algebra/trig based course for non-majors, not a calculus-based course for physics majors. However, every physics bachelor's program that I know about also has courses above the introductory level with labs, plus directed and independent laboratory work (senior thesis, capstone project, etc.)

The Open University has a physical center for laboratories etc., in the UK of course, according to a post that I've seen here. I don't know of any program in the US that has something similar.
 
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Excellent point. I forgot about lab work.
 
I have browsed the curriculum for physics at the Open University at the UK, and the topics they cover seem pretty thorough. Open University hasn't really gone into detail about labs. It looks like they have some classes that are all about experiments though, which are the following: Remote experiments in physics and space (SXPS288) and Science project course: radiation and matter (SXP390) I am sure that it will be important to do more experiments then just that though.

If they don't have a rigorous lab program, then would it be beneficial to google for labs to complete on my own?
 
I found this on the Academia Stack Exchange: https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/85947/flexibility-or-lack-of-at-the-open-university. I did kind of think it was weird that they have only two math modules at stage 1, which lumps "all" the math needed for physics. They don't even have calc 1,2,3. It's just calculus and further calculus. I also think it's strange that a physics module covers everything from classical mechanics to electromagnetism to quantum mechanics. Is this thorough? or does it just lightly touch each topic?

Anyone know of any other physics degrees online, preferably in America?
 
It's hard to be sure of a negative, but I've looked hard and come up empty with respect to accredited online physics degrees in the US. I'm not sure the labs are the real show stopper, as I can see several ways to deliver quality labs for the upper level courses much more cost effectively than in person attendance.

I think the real reason there are no online Physics degree programs in the US is simply supply and demand. There is a critical mass of students for most degree programs, and the accredited programs just don't see it as likely that an online offering would attract enough students.

There are hardly even any online math courses beyond Calculus and hardly any Physics courses online beyond the intro sequence. Putting all the advanced math and physics courses online for an entire BS Physics program simply has very low prospects for return on the initial investment and return on the costs to keep it running each semester.
 
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I currently have a degree in computer science and minor in math, and I am about to start a new job doing web development. I have started my own personal project building a physics engine in C++ and OpenGL. It is a lot of fun doing applied maths. I would like to get a degree in physics. The problem is that I will be working all day, and physics classes and labs at a near by university seem to happen morning and mid day.

The masters program seems to have classes at night, which would work, but I only took one calculus based physics course.

Does anyone have any suggestions on great online degree programs for physics? Also, I would like to ensure that the degree is extremely thorough. Since I have a degree in computer science, should I go straight for a Masters Program in Physics instead?
It depends on what you’re looking for. Texas A&M has an online MS in Physics geared towards teachers. That’s the only one I’ve seen.

ETA: This seems more like a BS program “on steroids” than a true master’s program.

http://www.tamuc.edu/academics/coll...y/graduatePrograms/msPhysicsForEducators.aspx
 
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John Hopkins has an online degree for a MS in Applied Physics. Courses are not cheap, but it looks like there are also good EE courses to choose from as electives. Their online degrees are well respected in U.S. industry.
 
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John Hopkins has an online degree for a MS in Applied Physics. Courses are not cheap, but it looks like there are also good EE courses to choose from as electives. Their online degrees are well respected in U.S. industry.
How do they do their labs?
 
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I assume everything is done on computers or through homework assignments since the courses are online. Probably no labs like a traditional physics curriculum. I think someone could argue that those taking the courses online are already employed in industry and likely getting adequate hands-on experience through their work. Probably not a great program for someone looking to go into AMO or condensed matter experimental research.
 
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I assume everything is done on computers or through homework assignments since the courses are online. Probably no labs like a traditional physics curriculum. I think someone could argue that those taking the courses online are already employed in industry and likely getting adequate hands-on experience through their work. Probably not a great program for someone looking to go into AMO or condensed matter experimental research.
See the passage in bold? How will that be either certified or verified? Also, to which specified requirements?
 
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symbolipoint - you could look the program up online and contact them with your questions. I provided a link in the post above.
 
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