Is Bohmian Mechanics Compatible with Polarisation Experiments?

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The discussion revolves around the compatibility of Bohmian mechanics with polarization experiments, specifically focusing on the behavior of light passing through polarizing filters. Participants explore theoretical implications and interpretations of quantum states in the context of Bohmian mechanics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that light passing through a 45-degree filter enters a superposition state, which should allow it to pass through a second filter without loss, according to certain interpretations.
  • Another participant argues that, according to Bohmian mechanics, the light is in a definite vertical or horizontal polarization state after passing through the first filter, leading to a prediction of only half the light passing through the second filter.
  • A later reply references external sources to challenge the claim that Bohmian mechanics dictates definite states for all physical properties at all times.
  • One participant expresses confusion over conflicting information received from different sources regarding the nature of quantum states in Bohmian mechanics.
  • Another participant questions the expertise of those providing conflicting information about Bohmian mechanics, suggesting a lack of understanding of the theory.

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Participants express disagreement regarding the interpretation of Bohmian mechanics and its implications for polarization experiments. Multiple competing views remain, with no consensus reached on the nature of quantum states in this context.

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Participants reference specific interpretations and external sources, indicating potential limitations in understanding or definitions of quantum states within Bohmian mechanics. The discussion reflects unresolved questions about the behavior of light in polarization experiments.

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I was thinking: if you send light through a 45 degree filter (D filter), and then sent that light through another D filter, because it is now in superposition of V+H state, and according to 'Beyond Measure', light in that state (left circularly polarised) would go through the 2nd filter 100% of the time.

But according to Bohm mechanics, the light be in a definite vertical or horizontal polarisation (even after going through the first D filter, thereby meaning that if it hit the 2nd D polariser, only half would go through, as expected if it were in a V or H polariser state (according to us, we expect it to be in a superposition, but its actually in a definite state).

Now, Ken G responded and said things about additional instructions about what to do if the photon encounters filters in particular orders.

But I see no difference in a photon with instructions and a V polarisation, and a photon with just a V polarisation. Both are the same physical realities, and the 'instructed photon' should behave just like a V polarised photon, only go through half the time if it encounters a 2nd D filter.
 
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Demystifier said:
No, this is not so according to Bohm mechanics. See e.g.
http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/quant-ph/9601013
especially Sec. 4.

Now I'm being told two different things: you say no, but two other Physics Professors tell me all physical properties of a quantum system have definite states at all times.
 
StevieTNZ said:
Now I'm being told two different things: you say no, but two other Physics Professors tell me all physical properties of a quantum system have definite states at all times.
I don't know who they are, but they are obviously not experts in Bohmian mechanics.
 

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