News Is Bush's Mars Trip Proposal a Strategic Distraction?

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The discussion centers on President Bush's proposal for a manned mission to Mars, questioning the motivations behind it. Participants speculate whether the initiative is a strategic move to gain political favor, particularly in key states like Texas and Florida, or a genuine interest in space exploration. The conversation touches on the potential financial implications of the mission, estimated at around $500 billion, and whether it serves as a distraction from other political failures. Humor and sarcasm permeate the dialogue, with references to selling land on celestial bodies and the complexities of space law. The legality of private ownership in space is debated, highlighting the ambiguity in international treaties regarding extraterrestrial claims. Ultimately, the thread reflects skepticism about the sincerity of the Mars initiative, suggesting it may be more about enhancing Bush's legacy than advancing scientific exploration.
  • #51
Thanks Nereid. :smile:
 
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  • #52
Originally posted by Evo
There are actually vitamin supplements on the market called "senior moment", perhaps I need some...:frown:
Do they give discounts for group or bulk purchases?
 
  • #53
Originally posted by Nereid
And your daughter's but 16? I think not.
suck up... She's OLD, man! Almost as old as me. (shut up. stop that maniacal laughter! STOP IT, I say!)
 
  • #54
Originally posted by Tsunami
Do they give discounts for group or bulk purchases?
Shall we go in on a bulk purchase? :smile:

She's OLD, man! Almost as old as me. (shut up. stop that maniacal laughter! STOP IT, I say!)
As a "former" good friend of mine once told me..."You know, we're not getting any younger OR better looking".

BTW Nereid, a truck load of chocolate is coming your way...
 
  • #55
Bulk sounds good. Do they have a long shelf life? Not that I'LL last all that long... Specially the way I crashed on my ski this past summer...

And she is your 'former' friend because of what she said? YIKES! Guess I'd better watch my mouth! But, HEY! At least you didn't get a birthday card that said "On your birthday, may no one look at your dog, and then at your hairstyle and say OH! WHAT A *CUTE* IDEA!"
 
  • #56
LOL at all of the old People!
 
  • #57
i agree with andy. i laugh at your age. (apart from the people that are nice to me...chocolates all round! :wink: )
 
  • #58
You two ever heard of Karma? It's not nice to make fun of old people. 'Sides - I could ski BOTH your butts off in a heartbeat!

Chopnik, you're in deep doodoo with your adopted mom.:wink:
 
  • #59
Kar...Ma? isn't that some sort of curry? my adopted mom isn't old! . Its not nice to make fun of old people? well they always insulted us as kids, ragamuffins, rapscallions, scallywags, whippersnappers, little s**ts... its about time they get their cummupence.

I think it would be quite amusing to watch me ski, i think a new born lamb would have more grasp of it then i would... stay on its feet longer anyway! [b(]
 
  • #60
Originally posted by jimmy p
i agree with andy. i laugh at your age.
What, you guys aren't going to get any older? :wink:

(apart from the people that are nice to me...chocolates all round!) :wink:
Too late, the damage has been done. [b(] Young whipper snappers. You two get close enough & I'll hit you both with my cane!

Are we off topic?
 
  • #61
Originally posted by jimmy p
my adopted mom isn't old!
SON! I knew you were just momentarily led astray by Andy!
 
  • #62
Originally posted by Evo
SON! I knew you were just momentarily led astray by Andy!
Yes, Chopnik. Do not trust anyone who looks like George W. Bush!
 
  • #63
Originally posted by Evo
Are we off topic?
No, we're still talking about Bush...
 
  • #64
I was waiting in the shadows to see if I would set a personal record for replies - ironically almost all off-topic - to a thread that I started.
 
  • #65
Originally posted by Loren Booda
I was waiting in the shadows to see if I would set a personal record for replies - ironically almost all off-topic - to a thread that I started.
So did I blow your record by mentioning Bush again?:frown:
 
  • #66
aww mom, i was only joking! me n andy are still allowed to play together, right?











(STOP HAVING A DIRTY MIND PEOPLE [that does mean you too Tsunami])
 
  • #67
Ya sorta 'gotta' admit Loren, that your original entrance does allow for some latitude in the discourse... Your titular intro
Originally posted by Loren Booda
Bush trip to Mars a red herring *Notice* No question mark, it is a statement...but...[/color]
Followed by your postulate...
Originally posted by Loren Booda
What credit should President Bush receive for suggesting a manned Mars trip? Does he scheme to one-up Kennedy, evade failed policy, or nationalize the world (all for ~$500,000,000,000)?
Four questions, from which we seemed to have opted for the "Nationalizing the World" Well, our version according to the current scheme of 'legalisms' repsective of property Rights...so here's yet another responce to add to your search for a title in responcivness's...
 
  • #68
My original post was genuine but seemed to become hijacked. Basically, I thought most responses there just an exercise in lame humor rather than a discourse on "nationalizing the world."

What political motives do you think George W. Bush intended when he announced the program for a manned Mars mission? Do you think he has an unselfish interest in the science and humanity of the project?
 
  • #69
Loren Booda wrote:What political motives do you think George W. Bush intended when he announced the program for a manned Mars mission? Do you think he has an unselfish interest in the science and humanity of the project?
Purely cynical - how to get a few thousand more votes (esp in Florida and Texas) without really trying. Hey Loren, I posted my opinion earlier in this thread.

Later, based on something mouseonmoon (I think) said, somewhere in Astronomy, I revised my opinion: following Condie's counsel about how the US's star has begun to fade (China is the new big boy), Dubya wants a nice page in the history books, preferably better than JFK's (but without getting shot). So, what the Moon was to JFK (beat that Ruskies!), so Mars is to GW (in your face, Hu!).

Mars wasn't in the SOU address, so maybe Karl's focus groups weren't so maximum bullish on Mars?
 
  • #70
Originally posted by Nereid
Purely cynical - how to get a few thousand more votes (esp in Florida and Texas) without really trying. Hey Loren, I posted my opinion earlier in this thread.

Later, based on something mouseonmoon (I think) said, somewhere in Astronomy, I revised my opinion: following Condie's counsel about how the US's star has begun to fade (China is the new big boy), Dubya wants a nice page in the history books, preferably better than JFK's (but without getting shot). So, what the Moon was to JFK (beat that Ruskies!), so Mars is to GW (in your face, Hu!).

Mars wasn't in the SOU address, so maybe Karl's focus groups weren't so maximum bullish on Mars?

Both the initiatives that week, Mars and the immigration plan, were pitched to make the president look like a big historic figure in the eyes of the voters. Both of them backfired. Mars looks like a joke to everybody but a tiny sliver of space enthusiasts, and immigration has got the Republican core up in arms. Bummer for Rove.
 
  • #71
Originally posted by Loren Booda
My original post was genuine but seemed to become hijacked. Basically, I thought most responses there just an exercise in lame humor rather than a discourse on "nationalizing the world." Little bit of both, perhaps? [/color]

What political motives do you think George W. Bush intended when he announced the program for a manned Mars mission? Do you think he has an unselfish interest in the science and humanity of the project? Not an American, no point in 'opinion'(ing) on US politics so directly...[/color]
HUH?? WHAT?? You think my Humor is LAME? Thats LAMMO BUDDY! So At least Phuleeeeeeeeeease use the right WORD!


(P.S. try to remember here "Bud", I own the material Universe, a little courtesy pleaseHee-hee-heeeeeeeeeeeee! )
 
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  • #72
Nereid,

I re-read and regard the "6 ways to Bushwhack the grassroots."
 
  • #73
I thing everything Shrub does and says in his speeches is purly politically motivated, designed to help him get re-elected - right down to using statistics from Kerry's home state during his state of the union address. These STATS were used to make Kerry look bad. Whenever he ad-libs, he generally ends up shooting himself in the foot, so he's usually good for at least a laugh about once a week. Didn't he just recently sign an environmental bill (clean-air, I think) and then 2-3 days later quietly sign another bill allowing his favorite corporations to continue their polluting practices for another 10 years or so?
 
  • #74
Originally posted by Tsunami
I thing everything Shrub does and says in his speeches is purly politically motivated, designed to help him get re-elected - right down to using statistics from Kerry's home state during his state of the union address.
...which makes him (gasp!) just like every other politician.

I don't judge politicians on their primary motive because they all have the same primary motive (get elected) otherwise they'd never be elected. The secondary motives are the ones that separate them.
 
  • #75
Originally posted by russ_watters
...which makes him (gasp!) just like every other politician.

I don't judge politicians on their primary motive because they all have the same primary motive (get elected) otherwise they'd never be elected. The secondary motives are the ones that separate them.
Too bad Bush has the destruction of the American way of life as a secondary motive, isn't it?
 
  • #76
Originally posted by Zero
Too bad Bush has the destruction of the American way of life as a secondary motive, isn't it?
Nice to see you back, Zero - its been awfully quiet for the past week.
 
  • #77
Zero reminds me so much of a guy I dated that was a leading member of the SDS and editor of The Rat, way back when...
 
  • #78
Bush is a loony.

Please just DON'T re-elect him!
 
  • #79
Just think if the failed Mars probe(s) had people's lives depending on them!
 
  • #80
yeah, and the manned missions to mars. Not a leader that fills you with hope is he? Which reminds me, talking of useless leaders, all the brits out there, don't vote Blair, vote Howard...or the Monster Raving Looney party!
 
  • #81
Originally posted by Shahil
Bush is a loony.

Please just DON'T re-elect him!

Says the guy with the Guevara pic as his avatar
 

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