Is C^n Homeomorphic to C^n/S_n in Polynomial Root Mapping?

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The discussion revolves around the question of whether the space C^n is homeomorphic to C^n/S_n, where S_n is the symmetry group of n elements, in the context of polynomial root mapping. Participants explore the implications of this relationship, particularly focusing on the properties of the quotient space C^n/S_n and its topology.

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Main Points Raised

  • Laura introduces a polynomial p(z) and describes a mapping from coefficients in C^n to roots in C^n/S_n, asserting that this map is injective, surjective, continuous, and has a continuous inverse.
  • Another participant provides a geometric explanation for why C^2/S_2 is homeomorphic to C^2, involving a transformation that relates the two spaces and suggests that the problem reduces to showing a homeomorphism between C/{1,-1} and C.
  • Laura claims that it is generally true that C^n/S_n is homeomorphic to C^n and references a paper that provides a detailed proof of this assertion, emphasizing the continuity of roots as functions of coefficients.
  • Laura shares a link to the paper discussing the homeomorphism between C^n/S_n and C^n.

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While some participants propose that C^n/S_n is homeomorphic to C^n, the discussion includes varying levels of certainty and exploration of different examples, indicating that multiple views and interpretations exist without a clear consensus on the generality of the claim.

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Participants reference specific transformations and mappings, but the discussion does not resolve the broader implications or limitations of these claims, such as the dependence on the properties of the quotient topology or the specific cases discussed.

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A polynomial p(z)=z^n+a_{n-1}z^{n-1}+...+a_0 has n roots \lambda_1,...,\lambda_n, and there's a map from the coefficients (a_0,...,a_{n-1})\in C^n to (\lambda_1,...,\lambda_n)\in C^n/S_n, where S_n is the symmetry group on n elements, and C^n/S_n is complex n-space quotiented by permutations on the elements (since it doesn't matter what order the roots are in). C^n/S_n has the quotient topology. This map C^n\rightarrow C^n/S_n is injective because of unique factorization, surjective, and continuous, and it has a continuous inverse.
Does that mean that C^n is homeomorphic to C^n/S_n? That seems remarkable.
Does anybody recognize this space C^n/S_n, or know how to find out more about it?
Laura
 
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\mathbb{C}^2/S_2 is an example of an http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbifold" .

Here is a geometric explanation (sort of) for why \mathbb{C}^2/S_2 is homemorphic to \mathbb{C}^2. Under the linear transformation that maps (z,w) to (z-w,z+w), the map (z,w)->(w,z) becomes (z,w)->(-z,w), hence \mathbb{C}^2/S_2 is homeomorphic to \mathbb{C}/\{1,-1\}\times\mathbb{C}. So the problem is reduced to showing that \mathbb{C}/\{1,-1\} is homeomorphic to \mathbb{C}.

I will denote the real projective line by \mathbb{R}P_1.
If you map an element z\in\mathbb{C}/\{1,-1\} to the pair
(the line spanned by z, |z|)
you get a homeomorphism to (\mathbb{R}P_1\times [0,\infty))/(\mathbb{R}P_1\times \{0\}). This is basically the half open cylinder S^1\times[0,\infty) with the boundary circle shrunk to a point, i.e. an infinite cone, which is homeomorphic to \mathbb{C}.
 
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Apparently it's true in general that C^n/S_n is homeomorphic to C^n! I found a paper online with a long, detailed proof, that seems ok as far as I've read, about why the roots of a polynomial are continuous functions of the coeffs.. It is using the quotient topology on C^n/S_n.

yyat said:
I will denote the real projective line by \mathbb{R}P_1.
If you map an element z\in\mathbb{C}/\{1,-1\} to the pair
(the line spanned by z, |z|)
you get a homeomorphism to (\mathbb{R}P_1\times [0,\infty))/(\mathbb{R}P_1\times \{0\}). This is basically the half open cylinder S^1\times[0,\infty) with the boundary circle shrunk to a point, i.e. an infinite cone, which is homeomorphic to \mathbb{C}.
The map f:z\rightarrow z^2 is a homeomorphism from C^2/\{1,-1\} to C^2.

Laura
 
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Here is the link to the paper about C^n/S_n being homeomorphic to C^n.
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/math/pdf/0502/0502037v1.pdf"
Laura
 
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