Is C2H4 an Example of SP2 Hybridization?

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The discussion centers around the hybridization of carbon atoms in the molecule C2H4 (ethylene) and whether it is an example of sp2 hybridization. Participants explore the implications of hybridization in relation to molecular geometry and bonding, with references to related molecules such as C2H2 (acetylene).

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that their study guide claims C2H4 is sp2 hybridized, but they question this based on their own geometric drawing.
  • Another participant asserts that C2H2 (acetylene) is sp hybridized due to its triple bond, while C2H4 (ethylene) has sp2 hybridization because of its double bond.
  • A participant expresses confusion about counting groups in the context of hybridization, suggesting that the double bond should be considered as one group.
  • Another participant emphasizes that carbon atoms must form four bonds to achieve a stable configuration, asserting that the structural formula for ethylene must be H2C=CH2.
  • One participant clarifies that the double bond is counted as one group in terms of hybridization, leading to a conclusion of sp2 hybridization.
  • A later reply introduces the idea that the classification of ethylene as sp2 or sp3 hybridized may be subjective, referencing "banana bonds" as a related concept.
  • One participant suggests that the question may be better suited for chemistry or physics forums.

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Participants express differing views on the hybridization of C2H4, with some supporting sp2 hybridization and others questioning or challenging this classification. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing interpretations present.

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There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of hybridization and the counting of bonding groups, which may affect participants' conclusions. The discussion also touches on the educational context, with references to high school and university-level explanations.

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In my take home study guide it says that C2H4 is an example of an SP2 hybridization... but when I draw out the electronic geometry I do not get a SP2 hybridization... am I doing something wrong or is my handout incorrect.

I get C2H2 as being an example of an SP2 hybridization
 
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Well, why would you say that the 2 C-atoms in acetylene are in sp_2 hybrid state ? As far as I know, they have a very stable triple bond between them and this is an sp hybridization.

Ethene C_2 H_4 has the 2 atoms of C in sp_2 hybrid state, as the bond between them is double.

These facts are high-school textbook material, though an explanation in terms of quantum mechanics is usually given in university.
 
perhaps i just don't understand this ... but wouldn't
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H-C=C-H be 5 groups total or are you just counting each central atom by itself thus each C would have 3 groups resulting in an SP2 hybridization?
 
We're not on the same page. The C-atoms must have 4 bounds in all (because they must gather 8 electrons in the vecinity of their nucleus to get the most stable configuration), so that the structural formula for ethene MUST be H_2 C = CH_2. I don't know what you mean by groups.
 
right but as in groups i am saying that the double bond between the C=C is looked as one group not 2...
 
lokobreed said:
right but as in groups i am saying that the double bond between the C=C is looked as one group not 2...

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Either carbon has three bonds: a bond to a hydrogen, a bond to a hydrogen, and a double bond to the other carbon. They're all counted as one, regardless of whether they're single, double, or tripe. 1+1+1=3=sp2 hybridized.
 

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