MHB Is Common Core Math Too Complex for Kids?

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The discussion centers around the perceived flaws of Common Core math, particularly its complexity compared to traditional methods. A specific example illustrates a third-grade math problem that a knowledgeable adult struggled to answer due to its convoluted approach. Critics argue that such methods cause unnecessary confusion and stress for young students. Some participants defend Common Core by stating that it aims for uniformity in educational standards across districts, suggesting that all students should have access to the same foundational courses, including algebra. However, others emphasize the importance of simplicity in teaching methods, advocating for clearer, more straightforward approaches to math education. The conversation highlights a divide between traditional and modern educational philosophies, with calls for more effective teaching strategies that prioritize student understanding.
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Common Core is evil. Everything is about funding and exams. One of my nephews came home with a math question that my brother could not answer. My brother is an IT Specialist for Western Union. He knows math but not Common Core math.

Here is an example:

Add 20 + 30.

Old Fadhioned Method:

20 + 30 = 50

Common Core Method:

20 = 10 + 5 + (5/2) + (5/2)

30 = 15 + 7.5 + 7.5

20 + 30 = 10 + 5 + (5/2) + (5/2) + 15 + 7.5 + 7.5 = 50.

It is absolutely insane to put a child through such agony in third grade. What is your view of Common Core Math?
 
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No, that is NOT "common core". As far as the example you give, either someone is mistaken or someone is pulling your leg. All "common core" means is that all school districts should teach the same basic courses. Do you think that whether or not algebra is offered in your school district should depend upon where you live?
 
HallsofIvy said:
No, that is NOT "common core". As far as the example you give, either someone is mistaken or someone is pulling your leg. All "common core" means is th6at all school districts should teach the same basic courses. Do you think that whether or not algebra is offered in your school district should depend upon where you live?

1. My brother has no reason to lie to me.

2. The 20 + 30 question is from a Common Core third grade math book.

3. Anyone can learn algebra if taught correctly. Ever seen Stand and Deliver? High school teacher Jaime Escalante took a bunch of illerates and taught them AP Calculus. The Board of Education people thought they cheated much to the embarrassment of the teacher. The students re-tested and passed the AP Calculus test with good scores. I am talking about ghetto students not knowing what a fraction is, really.
 
RTCNTC said:
Common Core Method:

20 = 10 + 5 + (5/2) + (5/2)

30 = 15 + 7.5 + 7.5

20 + 30 = 10 + 5 + (5/2) + (5/2) + 15 + 7.5 + 7.5 = 50.
Either this solution is sarcasm or it lacks the context that explains why 20 should be represented as a sum. It would be interesting to see some actual examples of problems that you or someone else think are bad. I tend to think that teaching methods can vary pretty widely and still be successful in teaching math.
 
Evgeny.Makarov said:
Either this solution is sarcasm or it lacks the context that explains why 20 should be represented as a sum. It would be interesting to see some actual examples of problems that you or someone else think are bad. I tend to think that teaching methods can vary pretty widely and still be successful in teaching math.

I disagree. Remember the saying KEEP IT SIMPLE, STUPID? This is why I like the Dummies Series: Word Problems for Dummies, Calculus for Dummies, Linear Algebra for Dummies, etc.
 
I deeply respect people who are engaged in self-education. Nevertheless the problem of self-education is as follows. A person reads textbooks and forms his own opinion about what he has read. Then he tries to solve a problem and faces the fact that his answer is not equal to the one in the end of the book. Then he goes to specialists and asks them what the story is. He expects that specialists will help him to solve the problem and they will do that by using his own understandings and...

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