Is CS2 Nonpolar & Al2S3 Polar?

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The discussion centers around the polarity of carbon disulfide (CS2) and aluminum sulfide (Al2S3), exploring the nature of these compounds and their intermolecular forces. It includes considerations of molecular structure, ionic versus molecular compounds, and the implications for intermolecular forces.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant assumes CS2 is nonpolar and Al2S3 is polar, seeking confirmation.
  • Another participant questions the assumption of Al2S3 as a molecule, suggesting it is more accurately described as an ionic compound in a solid state.
  • A participant proposes that CS2 has a transient dipole due to its nonpolar nature and suggests that Al2S3 would exhibit dipole-dipole forces if it were polar.
  • It is noted that molecules can have dipoles and still be classified as nonpolar, using carbon dioxide as an example.
  • Several participants emphasize that Al2S3 does not exist as a typical molecule, similar to NaCl, and clarify that ionic compounds do not have conventional molecular characteristics.
  • A participant acknowledges the need to use the term "ionic compound" to avoid confusion regarding Al2S3.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the classification of Al2S3 as a molecule, with some asserting it is an ionic compound. There is no consensus on the nature of Al2S3, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the polarity of both compounds.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the distinction between molecular and ionic compounds, as well as the implications for intermolecular forces. There is an emphasis on the need for clarity in terminology to avoid confusion.

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Hi guys,

I'm assuming that CS2 is a nonpolar molecule and Al2S3 is a polar molecule. Would I be correct?

Thanks in advance.
 
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If there is a homework problem in back of this, please post there. Otherwise, please explain what you are basing your assumptions on, especially in the case of the aluminum compound. Unless you are speaking about exotic chemistry, assuming Al2S3 is a molecule is unjustified. In the solid state, Al occupies the tetrahedral holes of the HCP sulfide "ions", but may do this is a regular fashion, many allotropes are known.
 
abitslow said:
If there is a homework problem in back of this, please post there. Otherwise, please explain what you are basing your assumptions on, especially in the case of the aluminum compound. Unless you are speaking about exotic chemistry, assuming Al2S3 is a molecule is unjustified. In the solid state, Al occupies the tetrahedral holes of the HCP sulfide "ions", but may do this is a regular fashion, many allotropes are known.

Thank you for your reply.

I'm just trying to figure out the intermolecular forces of the mentioned molecules. I'm guessing that the CS2 molecule has a transient dipole since it's nonpolar and that Al2S3 forms a dipole-dipole force between molecules if it's a polar molecule. Any clarification would be great.

Thanks.
 
Molecules can have dipoles and yet be non-polar. For example, carbon dioxide has two permanent dipoles yet it is non-polar.
 
cosmictide said:
Al2S3 forms a dipole-dipole force between molecules if it's a polar molecule.

You were already told there is most likely no such thing as Al2S3 molecule.

Just like there is no NaCl molecule.
 
Borek said:
You were already told there is most likely no such thing as Al2S3 molecule.

Just like there is no NaCl molecule.

The question I was answering was concerned with the intermolecular forces between aluminium sulfide Al2S3 so I assumed such ionic compounds to exist. Thanks.
 
cosmictide said:
I assumed such ionic compounds to exist. Thanks.

Ionic compounds don't have typical molecules. This is what we are trying to tell you from the very first post.
 
Borek said:
Ionic compounds don't have typical molecules. This is what we are trying to tell you from the very first post.

Yes I understand. I should have used the term ionic compound from the beginning to avoid any confusion. Thanks.
 

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