Is Decreased Internal Energy Essential for Spontaneous Reactions?

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The discussion centers on the relationship between internal energy and spontaneity in chemical reactions, specifically addressing why a decrease in internal energy is often associated with spontaneous processes. It is established that while ΔH (enthalpy change) does not have to be negative for spontaneity, ΔG (Gibbs free energy) must be negative, which can occur even when ΔH is positive if the entropy change (ΔS) is sufficiently large. The second law of thermodynamics plays a crucial role, as reactions that increase the total entropy of the universe are favored. The example of ammonium nitrate solution illustrates that endothermic reactions can still be spontaneous under certain conditions.

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Homework Statement


Why a spontaneous process is accompanied by a decrease in internal energy?


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I know that ΔH and ΔG will be negative for a spontaneous process
 
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utkarshakash said:

Homework Statement


Why a spontaneous process is accompanied by a decrease in internal energy?


Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution


I know that ΔH and ΔG will be negative for a spontaneous process

ΔH does not have to be negative for a spontaneous process. Solution of ammonium nitrate is spontaneous, and that is a process that takes in a lot of heat from its surroundings, Many processes are endothermic and spontaneous.
 
JohnRC said:
ΔH does not have to be negative for a spontaneous process. Solution of ammonium nitrate is spontaneous, and that is a process that takes in a lot of heat from its surroundings, Many processes are endothermic and spontaneous.
I know exceptions exist but in most of the cases it is negative. But I don't know why internal energy has to be negative
 
Remembered that Stability is inversely proportional to Internal Energy, if you asked that question.

As JohnRC pointed, ΔH need not be negative. It's only ΔG = ΔH - TΔS. See, even if ΔH is positive, a sufficient temperature of the system, accompanied by increase in entropy, can easily make ΔG negative.
 
AGNuke said:
Remembered that Stability is inversely proportional to Internal Energy, if you asked that question.

Why is it so?
 
Its a generally observed trend. Everything is stable when they are relaxed (Low energy state).

You are not comfortable standing while lifting a water filled bucket, are you? (High energy state as you need energy to keep the bucket lifted).
 
utkarshakash said:
Why is it so?

The spontaneity of a reaction is related to whether the reaction satisfies the second law of thermodynamics; that is, whether the reaction increases the total entropy of the universe. Obviously, the change of entropy of the system is an important component of the spontaneity. The change of entropy of the surroundings is the other important component. For an isothermal reaction, any reaction that transfers heat from the system to the surroundings will increase the entropy of the surroundings (you can think of this as energy confined to the system being liberated to the larger surroundings). Thus, a decrease in internal energy of the system, which for isobaric processes means that heat is transferred to the surroundings, will favor spontaneity.
 

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