Enthelpy and activation energy statements

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the characteristics of a reversible reaction where the forward process is exothermic and the reverse process is endothermic. Participants analyze which statements regarding spontaneity and activation energy must be true based on this information, focusing on theoretical implications rather than specific calculations.

Discussion Character

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant eliminated statement A, arguing that energy input is typically required to reach activation energy before products can form.
  • Another participant challenged the reasoning behind eliminating A, suggesting that exothermic reactions can still have positive Gibbs free energy and may not be spontaneous.
  • It was noted that statement B could also be discarded based on the reasoning applied to A, as the endothermic nature of the reverse reaction implies it may not be spontaneous.
  • Participants are prompted to consider statement C, but no specific arguments regarding it have been presented yet.
  • Statement D was initially chosen by one participant, who reasoned that endothermic reactions generally require more energy compared to exothermic reactions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach consensus on the validity of statements A and B, with differing views on spontaneity and activation energy. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications for statements C and D.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the relationship between enthalpy, activation energy, and spontaneity, indicating that additional factors such as Gibbs free energy and entropy may influence these characteristics.

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Homework Statement


For a particular reversible reaction, the forward process is exothermic and the reverse process is endothermic. Which of the following statements must be true about this reaction?
(A) The forward reaction will be spontaneous under standard conditions
(B) The reverse reaction will be spontaneous under standard conditions
(C) The activation energy will be greater for the forward reaction than for the reverse reaction
(D) The activation energy will be greater for the reverse reaction than for the forward reaction.

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


I eliminated B because if the reverse is endothermic, this will not be spontaneous. I chose the right answer (D) but I wanted to be sure my logic is on the right track. So, I assumed D must be correct because endothermic reactions require much more energy to force a reaction, whereas the forward exothermic reaction would require less.
 
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brake4country said:
must be true
Let's do them one at a time: why eliminate A?
 
A is wrong because it usually takes some energy input to make the reactants reach activation energy, which will then lead to products
 
"A is wrong," is a correct statement, but the activation energy argument doesn't hold water. There are reactions which may be strongly exothermic, but the Gibb's free energy will still be positive due to entropy of the reaction, and which will not be spontaneous (condensation of water vapor, freezing of liquid water, other such things). Enthalpy is a good clue for spontaneity, but is not sufficient of itself to guarantee spontaneity.

"B" you will have deduced can be spontaneous for an argument opposite to what I just gave you for "A," and since we're looking for "must be true," is also discarded.

So, now, what can you tell me about "C?"
 

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