Is Distillation the Best Method for Purifying Water?

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The discussion revolves around the effectiveness of distillation as a method for purifying water, particularly in relation to the removal of chloramines and other contaminants. Participants explore various purification methods, including distillation, reverse osmosis, and carbon filtration, while considering the purity levels required for safe drinking water.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that distillation can effectively remove chloramines, while others express uncertainty about the vaporization of chloramines during the distillation process.
  • A participant shares an experience indicating that both chlorine and chloramines can volatilize during distillation, potentially complicating the purification process.
  • There is a discussion about the limitations of distillation, with some participants noting that no separation method is perfect and that the desired level of purity influences the effectiveness of distillation.
  • Alternative methods such as reverse osmosis and carbon filtration are proposed as potentially simpler and more effective solutions for purifying drinking water.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential health risks associated with contaminants in drinking water, including chloramines and other chemicals.
  • Some participants question the feasibility of achieving a high level of purity through DIY methods compared to regulated water treatment processes.
  • There is a suggestion to consider the mineral content of water after distillation, with one participant proposing the idea of mineralizing distilled water by adding rocks, while expressing concerns about safety.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the effectiveness of distillation for removing chloramines or achieving desired purity levels. Multiple competing views on purification methods and their effectiveness remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of understanding about distillation and water purification methods, indicating a range of assumptions and knowledge gaps. The discussion reflects differing opinions on the adequacy of home purification methods compared to professional water treatment solutions.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in water purification methods, particularly those concerned about contaminants in drinking water and exploring DIY solutions for achieving high purity levels.

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Hi

I want to to make 100% (or close to it) pure water and I guess distillation is the way. I know there are VOCs that can vaporize at different temperatures. And then we have the chloramines in our tap water. When water gets vaporized does the chloramines vaporize too? Can anyone provide some source of information on how to perform perfect distillation of water?

Thank you!
 
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What research have you done on this so far? What have you found out?
 
phinds said:
What research have you done on this so far? What have you found out?
My only research is through google. Some people say if you boil water that contains chloramines, the vapour will be pure water and the chloramines will be left in the boiling jar. But some other sources claims the opposite. I don't know who I should believe but I hope to find some better answers on this forum.
 
In the past, I was mixing up a chlorine (not chloramine) water test for using with fish water systems.
When I used distilled to make it up, it turned very yellow (indicates the presence of chlorine.
Both the chlorine in the water and the chloramine volatilized in the distillation apparatus and then (since it was a closed chamber) re-condensed and was captured as distillate.
I would guess choramines would do about the same.

Fish hobbyists have their methods for making water chloramine free (it kills fish). Its a bit more complicated than just getting rid of chlorine. Hobbyist methods for removing chlorine or chloramines may leave other chemicals in the water (left overs from reacting with the chlorine/chloramines), but they are chemicals that don't bother aquatic organisms.

In labs, really pure water is made with water purification machines that use charcoal, ion exchange resins, reverse osmosis membranes, and perhaps other methods I am not now remembering, to make much "cleaner" water with a lower conductivity (fewer ions).

I would first try:
  1. a charcoal filter, or
  2. a charcoal filter combined with a home RO machine. (lab machines are expensive).
Here is a link to a manufacturer's overview of their lab water purification products.

You should consider what you really want (WRT level of purity) and how much (volume/how fast).

I recently visited the place I used to work at. They now have a very large RO system that can put out a continuous garden hose-like stream of RO treated water. It probably cost > $30,000. Also has maintenance costs.

Depending upon your needs, you might just want to purchase some really clean water.
 
First things first: do you understand how distillation works and how boiling points of the substances involved fit into the separation process? No separation is perfect, it is always a matter of amount of traces we are ready to accept in the "purified" substance. To some extent both statements "water and chloramines can be separated by distillation" and "water and chloramines can't be separated by distillation" are true depending on the context and the level of separation you want to achieve.
 
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Thank you for all answers. As I am new to this, would you like to recommend me a book that describes how to perform distillation?
 
watersplit said:
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I want to to make 100% (or close to it) pure water
How pure? Pure of what? 99,6% pure water tastes strongly salty. Drinking water is almost always more than 99,9% pure.
 
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...have you looked into reverse osmosis? Or carbon filtration? You just want to purify your water for drinking, right?
 
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snorkack said:
How pure? Pure of what? 99,6% pure water tastes strongly salty. Drinking water is almost always more than 99,9% pure.
Pure of anything unhealthy. So >99,9% is what I want.

russ_watters said:
...have you looked into reverse osmosis? Or carbon filtration? You just want to purify your water for drinking, right?
I have read a little about it, will look more into it. Yes, it's only for drinking. And my reason: there are claims that our drinking water contains chloramines, traces of chemicals, medicines etc, which are bad for health when drinking these things for a long time (several years?).

And after a distillation the water will have no minerals, which is bad according to some sources. So I was thinking about adding rocks in a container with water and let it mineralize. Perhaps not a safe thing to do as I don't know what minerals are released from various rocks. Maybe radioactive substances!
 
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Sorry to be blunt, but it sounds like you worry about things you have no idea about, at the same time you believe you will be able to make drinking water better than the one prepared and tested by state regulated water treatment plants, using methods that require years of education and training. Nope, it is not going to happen.
 
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The easiest and cheapest way out of this problem is with a carbon filter pitcher. But as said, there's really nothing needed nor is building your own distillation rig from scratch a trivial undertaking.
 
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