Is Downwash a Myth in Lift Theory?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of downwash in lift theory, particularly in relation to claims made by Doug Mclean regarding common misconceptions about lift and downward air flow. Participants explore the implications of downwash in real-world scenarios versus mathematical interpretations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant disagrees with Mclean's assertion that downwash does not exist, emphasizing the importance of real-world evidence over mathematical arguments.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on Mclean's claims, suggesting that he does not outright deny the existence of downwash but rather argues that the downward momentum does not accumulate in the atmosphere due to compensating reactions from the ground.
  • A request for a timestamp in Mclean's lecture is made to facilitate discussion about specific claims.

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Participants express differing views on the existence and implications of downwash, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the mathematical treatment of downwash and its physical implications are not fully explored, leaving room for further clarification and debate.

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Doug Mclean talk about common lift misconceptions.I agree with most of what he said but he claims that downward air flow "downwash" do not exist because integral is zero.

I don't agree with this statement,leave mathematics and see what happening in real world.
Downwash evidence:


What do you think about that and which lift theory do you support?
 
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Wing 11 said:
but he claims
How about a timestamp given it's a long lecture?
 
A.T. said:
How about a timestamp given it's a long lecture?
41:00 - 47:00 min
 
Wing 11 said:
but he claims that downward air flow "downwash" do not exist
He doesn't say that. He just says that the downward momentum doesn't accumulate in the atmosphere as a whole. The increased reaction from the ground cancels it.
 
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