Is E a subset of ]0,2] and how does it relate to ]0,2]?

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The discussion revolves around the set E defined as E = (a+b)/ab for positive integers a and b, and the relationship between this set and the interval ]0,2]. Participants are exploring whether E is a subset of ]0,2] and vice versa.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to prove that ]0,2] is a subset of E and questioning the notation used in the problem. There are discussions about the nature of the elements in E and whether all numbers in E are rational.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on how to express the set E more clearly and have raised questions about the implications of certain values, such as whether √2 is included in E. The conversation indicates a mix of interpretations and attempts to clarify the problem's notation.

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There are mentions of notation issues and the need for clearer definitions, particularly regarding the meaning of N* and the relationship between E and the interval ]0,2].

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we have E=(a+b)/ab (a,b)EN*
1/ prove that E C ]0,2] (i already duid that )
2/ is ]0,2] E E? shelp me in this one!


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x [itex]\in[/itex] ]0,2] [itex]\Rightarrow[/itex] x [itex]\in[/itex] E
 
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Andrax said:
we have E=(a+b)/ab (a,b)EN*
1/ prove that E C ]0,2] (i already duid that )
2/ is ]0,2] E E? shelp me in this one!


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


x [itex]\in[/itex] ]0,2] [itex]\Rightarrow[/itex] x [itex]\in[/itex] E

If E=(a+b)/ab what does EN* mean? What does ]0,2]E E mean? Please state your problem with proper notation.
 
LCKurtz said:
If E=(a+b)/ab what does EN* mean?
E means ##\in## and N* means the positive integers, I believe.
LCKurtz said:
What does ]0,2]E E mean? Please state your problem with proper notation.
I second that.
 
well sorry didn't find the proper notations in the advanced mode umm any solution?
 
Andrax said:
well sorry didn't find the proper notations in the advanced mode umm any solution?

You can use ε in the top row of Quick Symbols (on the right after you click Go Advanced). Or you can use LaTeX: [ itex ] \in [ /itex ] (without the spaces).

Also, tell us what you meant by N*.
 
Andrax said:
well sorry didn't find the proper notations in the advanced mode umm any solution?

You could try using words:
E = {(a+b)/(ab): a,b positive integers}. And "is ]0,2] a subset of E?"
or
E = {(a+b)/(ab): a,b,in N*}, and "is ]0,2] subset E?"

RGV
 
Ray Vickson said:
You could try using words:
E = {(a+b)/(ab): a,b positive integers}. And "is ]0,2] a subset of E?"
or
E = {(a+b)/(ab): a,b,in N*}, and "is ]0,2] subset E?"

RGV

I want to prove that ]0,2 is a subset of E E = {(a+b)/(ab): a,b,in N*}, and "is ]0,2] subset E?"
 
Aren't all the numbers in E rational?
 
Andrax said:
I want to prove that ]0,2 is a subset of E E = {(a+b)/(ab): a,b,in N*}, and "is ]0,2] subset E?"
In other words, you want to show that if [itex]0< x\le 2[/itex], the x= (a+ b)/(ab) for some positive integers a and b. [itex]\sqrt{2}[/itex] lies between 0 and 2 doesn't it?
 
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HallsofIvy said:
In other words, you want to show that if [itex]0< x\le 2[/itex], the x= (a+ b)/(ab) for some positive integers a and b. [itex]\sqrt{2}[/itex] lies between 0 and 2 doesn't it?

yes it does what's your point?
 
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ohh i get your point wow that's really easy don't know how i missed it
 

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