Prove that ∃ a∈]0,2[ such that f(a)=a^2

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The problem involves proving the existence of a point \( a \) in the interval \( ]0,2[ \) such that a continuous function \( f \) defined from \( [0,2] \) to \( ]0,4[ \) satisfies the equation \( f(a) = a^2 \).

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  • Participants discuss the function \( g(x) = f(x) - x^2 \) and its behavior at the endpoints of the interval. There are attempts to apply the intermediate value theorem (IVT) to establish the existence of a zero for \( g \). Some participants express confusion about how to start or apply the theorem effectively.

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Several participants have provided guidance on using the IVT with the function \( g \). There is recognition of the need to establish values at the endpoints \( g(0) \) and \( g(2) \) to apply the theorem. The discussion reflects a progression towards understanding the application of the IVT, although some participants still express uncertainty.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the continuity of \( f \) and the specific range of values it can take. There is also a focus on ensuring the correct application of the IVT in the context of the functions being discussed.

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Homework Statement


Let f:[0,2] --> ]0,4[ be continuous function. Prove that ∃ a∈]0,2[ such that f(a)=a2

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Sadly I have no idea whatsoever.
if e.g. a=1 and f(x)=x, then f(1)=12
 
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Look at the function g(x)= f(x)- x^2. g(0)= f(0) and g(2)= f(2)- 4. Since the largest possible value for f is 4, what can you say about g(2)?
 
Apply the intermediate value theorem to a suitably chosen function ##g: [0,2] \to [0,4]##.
 
I still don't get it :(
 
Is there something specific that you don't get? Did you make a start?

Could you perhaps give a precise formulate of the intermediate value theorem, as you understand it? (I suppose this question comes from a calculus course, where this theorem should appear.)
 
You were told to look at the function [itex]g(x)= f(x)- x^2[/itex]. Now you have been told to use the "intermediate value theorem". Do you know what that is?
 
I don't know how to get started and how to apply the intermediate value theorem.

Intermediate value theorem: If function f is continuous in [a,b] and f(a)<u<f(b), then there exists c ∈]a,b[ such that f(c)=u.

f(0)< a2 <f(2) --> a∈]0,2[ such that f(a)=a2
 
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And what have I already told you, last Sunday, about g(0) and g(4)?
 
Careful, the function ##f## in your statement of the IVT is not the same as the function ##f## from your exercise. Replace ##f## in the IVT by ##g## as proposed earlier. Also, the IVT is true as well when we replace "##f(a) < u < f(b)##" by "##f(a) > u > f(b)##".
 
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You want to find a zero of the function ##g(x) = f(x) - x^2 ##.
If you prove there is ##x_0## and ##x_1## in ##[0,2]## such that ##g(x_0) < 0 ## and ##g(x_1) > 0 ##, then the intermediate value theorem guarantees the existence of a zero for ##g##.

You have ## 0 < f < 4 ##. Then what about ##g(0)## and ##g(2)## ?
 
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geoffrey159 said:
You want to find a zero of the function ##g(x) = f(x) - x^2 ##.
If you prove there is ##x_0## and ##x_1## in ##[0,2]## such that ##g(x_0) < 0 ## and ##g(x_1) > 0 ##, then the intermediate value theorem guarantees the existence of a zero for ##g##.

You have ## 0 < f < 4 ##. Then what about ##g(0)## and ##g(2)## ?
g(0)>0 and g(2)<0
g(0)>0>g(2) so IVT: ∃x0∈]0,2[ such that g(x0)=0 ⇔ f(x0)=x02
Now I got it, I appreciate your help! thanks everyone!
 
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lep11 said:
g(0)>0 and g(2)<0
g(0)>0>g(2) and g continuous on [0,2] so IVT: ∃x0∈]0,2[ such that g(x0)=0 ⇔ f(x0)=x02
Now I got it, I appreciate your help! thanks everyone!
 
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