Is f(x) an antiderivative of f'(x) or a family of antiderivatives?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of the function f(x) in relation to its derivative f'(x) and whether f(x) represents a single antiderivative or a family of antiderivatives. The conversation includes theoretical aspects of calculus, particularly the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus (FTC), and explores the implications of arbitrary constants in antiderivatives.

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  • Some participants assert that f(x) is an antiderivative of f'(x), while others argue it represents a family of antiderivatives.
  • One participant emphasizes that f(x) is a specific antiderivative, suggesting that it is not a family of antiderivatives.
  • Another participant provides examples to illustrate that different antiderivatives can yield the same definite integral value, but the specific value of f(x0) can vary depending on the chosen antiderivative.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of f(x0) and whether it is an arbitrary constant, with some participants clarifying that it is not arbitrary in the same sense as the constant C that appears in integration.

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Participants express differing views on whether f(x) is a single antiderivative or a family of antiderivatives. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing interpretations presented.

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Participants highlight the dependence on the choice of antiderivative when evaluating definite integrals, which introduces nuances regarding the values of f(x0) and the role of arbitrary constants.

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By FTC, every function f(x) can be expessed like: f(x) = \int_{x_0}^{x}f'(u)du + f(x_0) Now, I ask: f(x) is a antiderivative of f'(x) or is a family of antiderivative of f'(x) ?
 
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Jhenrique said:
By FTC, every function f(x) can be expessed like: f(x) = \int_{x_0}^{x}f'(u)du + f(x_0) Now, I ask: f(x) is a antiderivative of f'(x) or is a family of antiderivative of f'(x) ?
f(x) is any antiderivative of f'.
 
Mark44 said:
f(x) is any antiderivative of f'.

That's not what I asked.
 
I actually did answer your question.
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f(x) is a antiderivative of f'(x) or is a family of antiderivative of f'(x) ?
f is one (pick anyone that you like) antiderivative of f'. f is not a family of antiderivatives.
 
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Now yes!

So, you are saying (implicitly) that f(x0) is not a arbitrary constant?
 
Let's look at an example:
$$\int_1^x t^2 dt$$

Solution 1 -
One antiderivative of t2 is (1/3)t3. Call this F1(t). By the FTC, the integral above is equal to F1(x) - F1(1) = (1/3)x3 - 1/3

Solution 2
Another antiderivative is t2 - 3. Call this F2(t). Again, by the FTC, the integral above is equal to F2(x) - F2(1) = [(1/3)x3 - 3] - [1/3 - 3] = (1/3)x3 - 1/3. This is the same value that was obtained in solution 1.

What you get for F(t0) depends on which function you use for the antiderivative, but the resulting value of the definite integral doesn't depend on which antiderivative you pick. You can choose any function in the family of antiderivatives, without making any difference at all in the resulting value of the definite integral. For this reason, it's most convenient to work with the antiderivative for which the constant is 0.

All of this seems very straightforward to me. Is there something I'm missing in what you're asking?
 
Sorry my arrogance, but I still didn't understood if f(x0) is a arbitrary value...
 
It's arbitrary in the sense that f is an unspecified antiderivative. In my two examples f(1) has two different values, depending on which antiderivative we're using. In my first example, f(1) (which I'm calling F1(1)) = 1/3. In the second example, F2(1) = 1/3 - 3 = -8/3.

For a specified antiderivative F, F(t0) is a constant, but if the particular antiderivative is not known, then we don't know the value of F(t0).
 
Based in your explanation, I can say that f(x0) isn't an arbitrary constant such as is an arbritrary constant C, that appears in integration*. Correct!?

*∫ydx = Y + C
 
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Yeah, I think that's OK.
 
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