Is generating electricity from rain water efficient?

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The discussion centers around the efficiency of generating electricity from rainwater, exploring various methods such as small generators attached to gutters and larger systems in storm sewers. Participants consider the practicality and potential applications of these systems, particularly for off-grid households.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the efficiency of rainwater electricity generation depends on the amount of available rain.
  • One participant mentions that while small generators can produce some power, they may not generate enough to supply an entire household.
  • Another participant draws a parallel between hydroelectric power and rainwater electricity, noting that rivers collect rainwater from large areas.
  • One participant proposes that rain gutter generators could be beneficial for off-grid households, alongside existing solar and wind options.
  • A participant provides calculations indicating that a typical rooftop could generate a minimal amount of electricity from rainwater, questioning whether 75% efficiency is sufficient for practical use.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of basic calculations to evaluate the viability of rainwater electricity generation ideas.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the efficiency and practicality of rainwater electricity generation, with no consensus reached on its overall viability or effectiveness.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss various assumptions regarding rainfall amounts, generator efficiencies, and the scale of electricity generation, which may affect the conclusions drawn about the practicality of these systems.

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From small generators attached to the gutters of your house to large ones in the storm sewers, is it efficient enough to make the effort?
 
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This only depends on the available amount of rain. If you build a Hoover dam or dig the Niagara falls ...
 
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Sure. If you can do it with a faucet, you can do it with a downspout. The faucet powered light in the picture costs only $5.

But if you mean generate enough power to supply your house, no.
 
Hydroelectric is just rainwater electricity on a larger scale. Rivers naturally collect rainwater from large areas.
 
I think the rain gutter generators would be useful for "off the grid" households. Solar and wind are already popular I thought why not rain gutter/grey water pipe generators.
I have had this idea for a decade or so thought it was time to share it.
 
DWT said:
From small generators attached to the gutters of your house to large ones in the storm sewers, is it efficient enough to make the effort?

http://www.renewablesfirst.co.uk/hy...-power-could-i-generate-from-a-hydro-turbine/

For a typical small hydro system the turbine efficiency would be 85%, drive efficiency 95% and generator efficiency 93%, so the overall system efficiency would be: 0.85 x 0.95 x 0.93 = 0.751 i.e. 75.1%


Is 75% efficient good enough?
 
CWatters said:
Is 75% efficient good enough?
Is that the right measure of "efficiency"?

Say that you have 1 meter of rain per year on your 10 meter by 10 meter footprint for a total of 100 cubic meters = 100,000 kg of water. Say your eaves are 10 meters above ground for a total of one million kilogram-meters of lift. Gravity is 10 meters per second^2 so that's about 10 million Joules.

One kilowatt hour is 3.6 million Joules and costs about a dime.

That means that a year's worth of rainwater on your rooftop generates about 30 cents worth of electricity.
 
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DWT said:
I think the rain gutter generators would be useful for "off the grid" households. Solar and wind are already popular I thought why not rain gutter/grey water pipe generators.
I have had this idea for a decade or so thought it was time to share it.
It's awesome to have ideas, but as jb Riggs showed, you can quickly do some basic calculations to see if they might be viable...to get them out of your head and at least on to the back of a napkin. We can help!
 

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