High School Is Gravity Impacting Projectile Range Beyond Air Resistance Effects?

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The discussion highlights that while air resistance reduces the maximum range of a projectile, gravity also plays a significant role in diminishing initial velocity, particularly when launched at a 45-degree angle. It is noted that the constant propulsive force leads to a velocity reduction of approximately 3 m/sec due to gravity, indicating that not all range loss can be attributed to drag. The conversation emphasizes the need for authoritative confirmation regarding the impact of gravity on projectile range. Additionally, it mentions that the speed loss during ascent is compensated by speed gain during descent, aided by gravity. The interaction between gravity and air resistance in projectile motion is a key focus of the discussion.
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Drag and projectile motion
Calculated maximum range of arrow at 45 degrees with initial velocity measured horizontally is of course reduced by air resistance. BUT initial velocity at 45 is reduced because propulsive force is constant and gravity reduces velocity by about 3m/sec. So not all distance loss is drag. Authors attibute all loss to drag so i need authorative confirmation of this extra factor.
 
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Amateur999 said:
BUT initial velocity at 45 is reduced because propulsive force is constant and gravity reduces velocity by about 3m/sec.
The loss of speed as the arrow climbs is made up for by the gain as it descends and gravity is helping.
 
Amateur999 said:
BUT initial velocity at 45 is reduced because propulsive force is constant and gravity reduces velocity by about 3m/sec.
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Could you explain that part?
 
Topic about reference frames, center of rotation, postion of origin etc Comoving ref. frame is frame that is attached to moving object, does that mean, in that frame translation and rotation of object is zero, because origin and axes(x,y,z) are fixed to object? Is it same if you place origin of frame at object center of mass or at object tail? What type of comoving frame exist? What is lab frame? If we talk about center of rotation do we always need to specified from what frame we observe?

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