Is Gravity Riding Into the 5th Dimension Feasible for FTL Travel?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using a hypothetical 5th dimension for faster-than-light (FTL) travel, specifically through the manipulation of gravity and higher dimensions as suggested by string theory. Participants explore theoretical implications, challenges, and creative ideas related to this concept, particularly in the context of science fiction writing.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes the idea of riding gravity into a smaller 5th dimension and then emerging back into normal spacetime as a method for FTL travel.
  • Another participant challenges this notion by explaining that if one were to enter a dimension smaller than an atom, the distance traveled would be negligible, thus questioning the feasibility of the proposed travel method.
  • A different perspective suggests envisioning the 5th dimension as a scaled-down version of the universe, where entering this dimension could allow for rapid traversal across vast distances.
  • Participants discuss the analogy of a tightrope to illustrate the concept of dimensions, but one participant argues that this analogy ultimately undermines the original idea by suggesting limitations on movement within such dimensions.
  • A participant expresses frustration and a desire to return to brainstorming after receiving critical feedback on their idea.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus, as there are competing views on the nature of the 5th dimension and its implications for FTL travel. The discussion remains unresolved, with differing interpretations of dimensional travel and its feasibility.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the assumptions made about the nature of higher dimensions and their physical properties. The discussion also reflects a dependence on speculative interpretations of string theory and the implications of dimensionality.

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Hi guys,

I had an idea the other day about riding gravity into the smaller 5th dimension and then jumping out of it back to normal space time as a way of FTL travel. Now i don't know if this is the right place to ask questions like this but what would the feasibility/problems be like for such an idea and how would your think it could be done...

According to what i have read in string theory gravity appears to leak into higher dimensions, if a spaceship could also leak into this higher dimension (5th) then travel in this dimension and jump out of it at a desired location it would avoid the limit of light speed.

I know such theories of hyperspace might be similar I'm wondering if theoretically one could jump into the 5th dimension (which would be a great deal smaller than the 4d universe according to some theories I've read) travel at sublight in the 5th dimension and then jump out to wherever it is they desired. Mapping the entire universe onto a milimeter or smaller sized 5th dimension reducing the ship to something of this scale and then jumping back out again.

This is an idea i had for a book, it would allow almost instant travel throughout the universe. What do you think?
 
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You're misunderstanding what a "smaller dimension" entails. If you "leaked yourself" into that 5th dimension (whose entire diameter is less than that of an atom), you could cross it and emerge again - but you would have moved less than the diameter of an atom.
 
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I was thinking more in terms of the 5th dimension being a carbon copy of the universe but on the milimeter scale... EG:

Normal Space Time
____________________________(ME)__________________________________
...\ _________________________________________________/... .
......\______________________________/......
.........\____________/.........
5,6,7,8th dimension (whatever)..._(me)_

Is it plausible that the idea of hyperspace can be seen as a shrinking on the universe on a higher dimensional plane, so that if one were to enter the dimension by whatever means they could travel across the universe in a fraction of the time it would take normally.

I read somewhere that the smaller you get the more dimensions are available to you...

"The first three dimensions, length, height and width, are familiar to all of us. The fourth dimension is time. But what are the extra dimensions? "Imagine a tightrope stretched between skyscrapers," says Hewett. "If you are watching an acrobat walk across it — the tightrope looks like a line. But if you are watching an ant walk on the tightrope, you can see that the tightrope is thick and round." The extra dimensions postulated in string theory are like the tightrope with an ant on it; they are too small to see unless you get really, really close. "
From: http://www.physorg.com/news10682.html

Remember this is for a novel so I'm trying to come up with something that has some sort of basis in proper string theory and doesn't use the same old wormholes or folding space ideas.
 
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Lostpinky said:
"Imagine a tightrope stretched between skyscrapers," says Hewett. "If you are watching an acrobat walk across it — the tightrope looks like a line. But if you are watching an ant walk on the tightrope, you can see that the tightrope is thick and round." The extra dimensions postulated in string theory are like the tightrope with an ant on it; they are too small to see unless you get really, really close. "
Yes, the tightrope is actually a great way of visualizing it. Alas, it's also a great way of invalidating your idea. Your idea, transposed onto the tightrope would mean that the tightrope walker could shrink himself down so small that he experiences the tightrope as two dimensional - with length and circumference.

But your idea then supposes that if he traversed the short dimesnion (i.e. circles the tightrope's circumference), he should, for some reason, emerge at the far end of the rope.
 
ah bugger... back to the drawing board then.
 

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