Is hard work or natural intelligence more important for success in physics?

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The discussion centers on the balance between hard work and natural aptitude in pursuing a career in physics, particularly for someone with a microbiology background who enjoys physics despite struggling with it. Participants emphasize that both perseverance and some level of innate ability are crucial for success in physics, especially at higher academic levels, where the material becomes more abstract. Many agree that genuine interest can enhance performance, but caution that hard work alone may not suffice without a certain degree of intelligence. The conversation also touches on the potential for interdisciplinary fields like biophysics and the importance of exploring interests before making a major change. Ultimately, the consensus is that a combination of passion, hard work, and some natural aptitude is necessary to thrive in physics or any scientific discipline.
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Howers said:
GREs that are timed.

I don't understand- what does "GREs that are timed" have to do with a successfull career in academia?
 
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I think the root of this debate is the Nature vs Nurture debate. Do you believe a person drops from the womb wired for astrophysics, or do experiences (not necessarily one-on-one tutoring from pre-school) shape a person's mind to do the same.
 
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Yep, it's obviously a mixture. I don't contend that the average person can succeed in science, but I do think that people who are majoring in science can do well simply because people have a tendency to like what they are good at. I know there are special cases here and there, but generally, I believe that's true.

I love music, but I'm not good enough at it to pursue it, I love math, and I was good enough to pursue it. I believe many people follow this type of thought.
 
  • #34
Andy Resnick said:
I don't understand- what does "GREs that are timed" have to do with a successfull career in academia?

For starters, it is what gets you through the door.
 
  • #35
Howers said:
For starters, it is what gets you through the door.

That may be. Nonetheless, you have not provided any evidence how that provides for a successful academic career. Many people get through the door, fewer people get out. There's many doors available.

All I am saying is that I don't understand your claim that IQ automatically translates into "good work". And I am asking you provide evidence (in the face of clear examples to the contrary) to substantiate your claim.

Providing evidence to support a theory is generally considered "good work" in academia.
 

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