Is hard work or natural intelligence more important for success in physics?

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The forum discussion centers on the debate between hard work and natural intelligence in achieving success in physics. Participants agree that both elements are essential, with some emphasizing that perseverance can lead to success even without innate talent. The conversation highlights the importance of passion for the subject, suggesting that enjoyment and dedication can compensate for a lack of natural aptitude. Additionally, the discussion touches on the relevance of foundational courses, such as linear algebra, and the potential for interdisciplinary fields like biophysics to attract students from different majors.

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  • #31
Howers said:
GREs that are timed.

I don't understand- what does "GREs that are timed" have to do with a successfull career in academia?
 
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  • #32
I think the root of this debate is the Nature vs Nurture debate. Do you believe a person drops from the womb wired for astrophysics, or do experiences (not necessarily one-on-one tutoring from pre-school) shape a person's mind to do the same.
 
  • #33
Yep, it's obviously a mixture. I don't contend that the average person can succeed in science, but I do think that people who are majoring in science can do well simply because people have a tendency to like what they are good at. I know there are special cases here and there, but generally, I believe that's true.

I love music, but I'm not good enough at it to pursue it, I love math, and I was good enough to pursue it. I believe many people follow this type of thought.
 
  • #34
Andy Resnick said:
I don't understand- what does "GREs that are timed" have to do with a successfull career in academia?

For starters, it is what gets you through the door.
 
  • #35
Howers said:
For starters, it is what gets you through the door.

That may be. Nonetheless, you have not provided any evidence how that provides for a successful academic career. Many people get through the door, fewer people get out. There's many doors available.

All I am saying is that I don't understand your claim that IQ automatically translates into "good work". And I am asking you provide evidence (in the face of clear examples to the contrary) to substantiate your claim.

Providing evidence to support a theory is generally considered "good work" in academia.
 

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