Is Homeland Security Spoof or Serious Satire?

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The discussion revolves around the legitimacy and implications of the Neighborhood Network Watch initiative, which some participants question as either a spoof or a serious project. The conversation touches on themes of community self-protection, police funding, and the nature of surveillance in society.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express uncertainty about whether the Neighborhood Network Watch is a legitimate initiative or a hoax.
  • One participant suggests that communities should take more responsibility for their safety to alleviate the burden on police resources, proposing the idea of purchasing firearms as a means of self-defense.
  • Another participant argues that the initiative is a hoax, revealing it as an art project designed to provoke thought about surveillance and network operations.
  • There is a discussion about the role of police, with some asserting that the police are not primarily responsible for individual safety, but rather for investigating reported crimes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether the Neighborhood Network Watch is a legitimate initiative or a spoof. Multiple competing views remain regarding the implications of community self-protection and the effectiveness of police funding.

Contextual Notes

Some claims depend on interpretations of the initiative's purpose and the effectiveness of community-led safety measures. The discussion includes varying assumptions about the role of law enforcement and the responsibilities of individuals in ensuring their safety.

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As the FatherLand/MotherLand/ApplePieLand industry gets weirder - I can't work out if this is a spoof or not!
http://dhsnnw.org/index.html
 
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looks legit
 
If it isn't a hoax is there a problem with it?

Communities should do more to protect themselves in order to cut already overstretched police spending, as it cuts into our taxpayer dollars. Buy a gun.
 
RonPaul2008 said:
If it isn't a hoax is there a problem with it?

Communities should do more to protect themselves in order to cut already overstretched police spending, as it cuts into our taxpayer dollars. Buy a gun.

:smile: I love this guy, he as nuts as Ron Paul! :biggrin:

I like how you just injected buy a gun into the conseration at random. HAHAha!
 
Looks like a hoax to me. [edit] Yep:
Emery Martin is a man on a mission. The 23 year-old resident of Brooklyn has spearheaded the Neighborhood Network Watch, a grassroots group advocating the monitoring by volunteers of open Wi-Fi networks "to make sure that terrorists may not be using your own home network to plan the next attack on our nation or your very own community".

But there's an important catch: Martin's group, which claims to be supported by the US Department of Homeland Security, isn't for real. Rather, it's a sprawling art project and master's thesis cooked up by Martin to stimulate thought about how networks operate and the ability for them to be surveiled.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/24/neighborhood_network_watch_unmasked/

Don't you people Google?
 
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Cyrus said:
:smile: I love this guy, he as nuts as Ron Paul! :biggrin:

I like how you just injected buy a gun into the conseration at random. HAHAha!

Yes, you pay taxes as well, or so I assume. Would you rather pay for overburdened police protection that may or may not be effective, or would you rather take charge and inspire your local community to protect one another and themselves? Many people actually believe the role of police is to protect, and that is not really the case. They are charged with investigating crimes victims report, finding those responsible, enorcing the law as needed, and ensuring the will of the courts are carried out. It is each individuals responsibility to ensure his or her safety. Instead of continuing to throw money at problems like Hilary Clinton or Barack Obama would if they are elected, would you rather cut spending and deal with problems in the long term?
 
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