Is Hydrogen Ion a Powerful Antioxidant?

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The discussion revolves around the properties of hydrogen ions, specifically the negative hydrogen ion (H-) and its role as an antioxidant. Participants also explore related compounds and their antioxidant properties, including L-Carnosine, Ascorbic Acid, and Lipoic Acid, while addressing fundamental questions about electron configurations and ionization.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether L-Carnosine, Ascorbic Acid, and Lipoic Acid are indeed antioxidants, indicating a potential misunderstanding.
  • There is a claim that the negative hydrogen ion (H-) is an antioxidant, but this is met with varying responses.
  • Participants discuss the electron configuration of hydrogen, questioning whether H- has one or two electrons.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the hydroxide ion (OH−) and its electron count, with assertions that it has ten electrons and the hydroxide radical has nine.
  • There is uncertainty about the electron count of hydrogen ions, with participants asking if it is zero or two.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the antioxidant properties of hydrogen ions and related compounds. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact nature of hydrogen as an antioxidant and the electron configurations of hydrogen and hydroxide ions.

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Participants rely on varying definitions of antioxidants and the properties of ions, which may lead to differing interpretations. The discussion includes assumptions about electron configurations that are not fully clarified.

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This discussion may be of interest to those exploring the chemical properties of antioxidants, ionization, and the role of specific ions in biochemical processes.

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Dear PF Forum,
First of all, Happy New Year 2016, may your hopes, dreams, wishes and plans be fullfiled in this year.
I'm interested in AntiOxidant.
I've read:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antioxidant
and
http://www.1stvitality.co.uk/az/antioxidants/antioxidants.htm
Those sites give me this antioxidant compound lists
L-Carnosine C9H14N4O3
Ascorbic Acid C6H8O6
Lipoic acid C8H14O2S2
Are they really antioxidant, or there's a mistake in my understanding.

Now about Negative Hydrogen Ion: H-
Is it really an antioxidant?

Thanks for the answers.
 
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Stephanus said:
L-Carnosine C9H14N4O3
Ascorbic Acid C6H8O6
Lipoic acid C8H14O2S2
Are they really antioxidant, or there's a mistake in my understanding.
Now about Negative Hydrogen Ion: H-
Is it really an antioxidant?
Yes. Yes. Yes. No. Yes.
 
Hy Bystander, Happy New Year.
Thanks for the answer.
May I ask a little about this hydrogen.
Electron layer is 2, 8, 8, ... I only remember the first three. Further, it will be difficult to understand. But, since I just concern Hydrogen and Oxygen only (perhaps Carbon and Nitrogen), So I only deal with these layers 2 and 8.

Because Hydrogen only have 1 proton, so it may lose or gain electron to fill its layer.
So what is this antioxidant hydrogen? Is it H-, or any H?

Does H- means Hydrogen with 2 electrons in its shell? Perhaps I can't express my question. I'll try to understand hydrogen ion by your answer.
How many electrons does antioxidant hydrogen have? Is it 1 or two?

What about hydroxide?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroxide
Hydroxide is a diatomic anion with chemical formula OH−. It consists of an oxygen and hydrogen atom held together by a covalent bond, and carries a negative electric charge...
Here, I can't express my question either. So, I'll ask to the point. How many electron does hydroxide have? 9 or 10?
Judging from your answer, I'll try to understand about this ionization.

Thanks.
 
Hydroxide ion? Ten.
Hydroxide radical? Nine.
Anything that has reducing properties is an anti-oxidant.
 
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Hydroxide ion? Ten.
Hydroxide radical? Nine.
Anything that has reducing properties is an anti-oxidant.
Okay...
So, if Hydroxide radical has nine, then hydrogen antioxidant has 1 electron. Is it true?And what about the electrons in hydrogen ion? is it 0 or 2? Just out of curiousity.
Thanks
 

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