Is Irrational Thinking Unavoidable? Examining Society's Standards

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The discussion centers on whether rationality should be defined uniformly across individuals, given the diverse backgrounds that shape personal perspectives. Participants argue that societal standards of rationality may oversimplify complex ideas and that the creative potential of irrational thoughts should not be dismissed, as they can lead to innovative concepts. There is a call for a system that allows for the coexistence of varied ideas, emphasizing the importance of filtering out noise while encouraging productive discourse. The conversation also touches on the role of the scientific method in distinguishing rationality and the potential value of unconventional ideas. Ultimately, the dialogue highlights the need for a balanced approach to understanding rational and irrational thought within society.
  • #51
Originally posted by Iacchus32
What the hell difference is it going to make if I can't see if for myself? ... and that's the truth! You know what they say, "Garbage in, garbage out!" :wink:

This is what I mean by "accountability."

Well, you just produce your own garbage, don't you? And, of course, there is no way for you to check it against anything else to see if it is garbage or not.
 
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  • #52
Originally posted by Zero
Well, you just produce your own garbage, don't you? And, of course, there is no way for you to check it against anything else to see if it is garbage or not.
Not so. This is why I have a brain. Not to mention other reference materials as well.
 
  • #53
Originally posted by Iacchus32
Not so. This is why I have a brain. Not to mention other reference materials as well.

Do these 'references' exist in reality, or did you just dream up their existence on the spot?
 
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Originally posted by Iacchus32
Can I take that to mean yes or no? :wink:
Where do you see a yes or no question ?
 
  • #55
Originally posted by drag
Where do you see a yes or no question ?
Well "yes" is everything and "no" is nothing, etc. Meaning we can call something irrational, but by who's standards? In which case it could be a yes or a no.
 
  • #56
Phenomenon vs Observation

So does it make sense then, that what we deem rational, should be adapted to each situation? Rather than have it "imposed" externally, in a white-washing sense?

Of course the one idea is general and the other is specific, and yet without the specific, there would be no will or motivation to give rise to the phenomenon which allows us to make the "general observation" in the first place. Got it? :wink:
 
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