Is It a Histogram or a Bar Diagram?

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The discussion revolves around the classification of a graphical representation of letter frequencies in a message, specifically whether it should be termed a histogram or a bar diagram. Participants explore the definitions and characteristics of both types of charts, considering the implications for clarity in communication, especially in the context of submitting work for publication.

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  • Some participants propose that counting the frequency of letters in a message constitutes a histogram, as it represents the distribution of one variable.
  • Others argue that a bar chart is appropriate when comparing two variables, suggesting that the distinction is important.
  • A participant questions whether histograms must have numerical data on both axes and whether letters can be considered numerical data.
  • Some participants assert that both terms can be used interchangeably, emphasizing the importance of clarity in what is plotted rather than strict adherence to terminology.
  • One participant expresses concern about using the correct terminology for a lesson plan intended for a prize submission, indicating a desire for precision.
  • Another participant supports the histogram classification, referencing a definition that does not limit histograms to numerical data.
  • Some participants suggest that there are more significant aspects to consider for publishable quality, such as labeling axes and overall presentation, rather than focusing solely on the terminology.
  • A later reply introduces the term "bar diagram" as a potential alternative, based on a presentation that discusses various types of graphs.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on whether the graphical representation should be classified as a histogram or a bar diagram, with multiple competing views remaining throughout the discussion.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the definitions of histograms and bar charts, particularly in relation to the treatment of letters as numerical data. There is also mention of the need for clarity in graphical representation for publication purposes.

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If you count the frequency of letters in a message, then have one axis with letters and another with numbers, is that a histogram or a bar graph or something different still?

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I see why it is not a bar chart, but do histograms have to have numbers along both axes? In the wiki article is states, A histogram is an accurate representation of the distribution of numerical data." Do the letters of the alphabet count as "numerical data?"
 
Both names work. Make clear what you plot and don't bother too much with names.
 
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I don't mean to be a stickler but I am submitting something (a lesson plan) for a prize and I know it will be scrutinized.
 
Histogram.
Best I know without checking is that the bars are each for separate categories.
 
Hello,

Does anyone else have any insight. I am submitting something to be published and don't want to use the wrong word. I have now played it safe and called it a "bar chart", but I feel there is a case for Histogram as the alphabet is ordered and can be put in 1-1 correspondence with the Integers, so they can act as a number axis with an interval of 1.

From wiki: "A histogram is an accurate representation of the distribution of numerical data."
 
I vote for histogram. Here is a definition that does not contain the phrase "numerical data".

If you are looking for "publishable quality" then there are more significant things to address with your graphs (assuming the images are your final effort). Labels for all axes, graph title, color scheme, elimination of chartjunk to start.

Here is a nice presentation that seems generally relevant.
 
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lewando said:
I vote for histogram. Here is a definition that does not contain the phrase "numerical data".

If you are looking for "publishable quality" then there are more significant things to address with your graphs (assuming the images are your final effort). Labels for all axes, graph title, color scheme, elimination of chartjunk to start.

Here is a nice presentation that seems generally relevant.
When we scroll almost to the end of the ppt link in your "Here" hyperlink, the author discusses "Graphs that are not graphs", shows a chart with category versus numerical values, and calls this type a "bar diagram". So that's how you might call yours in general if you want.
 
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