Is It Fair to Hold Elections Under Foreign Occupation?

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The discussion centers on the fairness and legitimacy of holding elections under foreign occupation, with a focus on various historical and contemporary examples, including elections in Iraq, Lebanon, and Palestine. Participants explore the implications of foreign influence on democratic processes and the differing perceptions of legitimacy in these contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that elections cannot be considered honest under foreign occupation, citing President Bush's stance on Syria and questioning why similar demands were not made regarding Israel's occupation of Palestine.
  • Others reference historical elections, such as those in South Vietnam during the Vietnam War, to illustrate the complexities of legitimacy in elections held under duress or occupation.
  • One participant suggests that the Palestinian Authority (PA) is not a transitional government in the same way as Iraq, noting that Palestine has held elections for years, although the legitimacy of its governance is debated.
  • There are claims that the PA has been influenced by figures like Arafat and Hamas, complicating its status as a legitimate government.
  • Some express skepticism about the motivations behind U.S. foreign policy, particularly regarding the inconsistency in addressing different occupations, and speculate on the implications of these actions for global perceptions of democracy.
  • Participants discuss the notion of sovereignty in Lebanon and the PA's status, with some asserting that Lebanon is a sovereign nation while others challenge this view.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the legitimacy of elections under occupation, with no clear consensus reached. Disagreements persist regarding the definitions of transitional governments and the implications of foreign influence on democratic processes.

Contextual Notes

Limitations in the discussion include varying definitions of what constitutes a legitimate government, the historical context of each election mentioned, and the differing perspectives on the role of foreign powers in domestic governance.

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I haven't been able to study women's rights in the west.
 
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Bilal said:
This site is supporter for the right wing in Israel.. so why you do not prefer my site which is Israeli , it is also accepted solution for both sides? Otherwise I can present hundreds of pro Palestine sites showing the opposite views of your site?

It certainly is not a "right wing" supporter. It is a site run by both Palestinians and Israelis. If you'd like to see some right wing sites I can also post a multitude of links. You should realize that just because a site is "Israeli" doesn't make it neutral. There are plenty of "anti-israeli" jews just as there are plenty of "anti-american" americans.
 
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They can still set up a website that sounds and appears "neutral", but its not because of how they word what they say. It fools people into believing they have received an unbiased opinion on the matter, when they really haven't. Read enough of those sites and you'll start to think like them and support them without even knowing it. That is sad.
 
  • #64
Bilal said:
Bush asked Syria several times to withdraw immediately from Lebanon before the election. He believes that no honest election under foreign occupation.

Your case rests entirely on an assumption that, if held, means Bush believes the elections held under the Occupation of Japan and Germany were fraudulant.

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