Is US Complicity in Yassin's Assassination Fueling a Religious War?

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The discussion revolves around the implications of the assassination of Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, a leader of Hamas, and the perceived complicity of the United States in this event. Participants explore themes of morality, international law, historical context, and the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict, with a focus on the role of the US in supporting Israel.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that the US is complicit in Yassin's assassination by providing military support to Israel and vetoing international efforts to address the conflict.
  • Others challenge the characterization of Yassin as a spiritual leader, suggesting he was responsible for violence against Israelis and questioning the relevance of his physical condition to his actions.
  • A participant draws a parallel between Yassin and Bin Laden, questioning whether physical limitations would affect accountability for actions taken.
  • Some express sympathy for the Palestinian cause, arguing that historical injustices justify resistance against perceived occupation.
  • Another participant references the UN Partition Plan of 1947, asserting that Israel's establishment was sanctioned by international law, while others label the acquisition of land as theft.
  • Concerns are raised about current Israeli policies, including settlement expansion and military actions, which some view as exacerbating the conflict.

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Participants express a range of views, with no clear consensus on the morality of the assassination, the legitimacy of Israel's actions, or the role of the US. Disagreements persist regarding historical narratives and interpretations of international law.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various historical events and legal frameworks, but the discussion remains complex and unresolved, with differing interpretations of the implications of these references.

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Readers interested in international relations, Middle Eastern politics, historical conflicts, and the dynamics of US foreign policy may find this discussion relevant.

  • #31
Originally posted by suyver
Interesting... the Palastinians seem to have a legitimate claim against Sharon for possible genoside (I think from somewhere in the beginning of the 1980's).

I'm assuming you're referring to shabra and shatila. Sharon's role was far less direct then Yassin's has been, and in fact little attention is paid to the responsibility of the Phalange and Syria in Shabra and Shatila. Sharon's guilt in this is on par with the U.N. when they were given the duty of protecting refugess on numerous occasions yet allowed them, either through ignorance or neglect, to be slaughtered. When you try the U.N. for Genocide then maybe you should put Sharon on trial with them. But..this is probably a better debate for another thread, if you'd like.

So, according to you they should just buy some gunships and blast him - and maybe a few of his children and some bystanders too - when he leaves a Jewish house of worship?
When Israel stops putting on trial and imprisoning those people who are their responsibility who murder, or attempt to blow up innocent arabs then you might have a parallel example.

We've been down this road on this forum many times, I don't buy your moral equivelency crapola.

This is the reality:

1. The PNA is treaty bound to extradite these guys to Israel.
2. The PNA not only refuses to extradite, it arms and supports them at every level.
3. They have and will continue to bomb Jews until they are stopped.
4. To go in and arrest isn't just sending 2 cops around to serve a warrant. As I said, it would require a full scale invasion and the deaths of hundreds, to serve a warrant on one murderous sharmuta.
5. So, the GOI kills them instead.

If you don't like step 5, that's fine. Suggest an alternative because they've been at stage 4 for years, despite trying numerous approached and under numerous political leaders and yet they keep having to bury the bits and pieces of their children and elderly.



Evil begets evil...
That's a load of crap. Evil has no problem coming in amongst innocence and slaughtering it.

The bottom line is, until you can come up with an alternative you're part of the problem.

Of course by the looks of it we might have a very good oppurtunity to witness other alternatives as we see how other countries deal with this in the coming year. I think by comparision the Israeli's will look good, not that it will stop the barrage of criticism. The world just wouldn't be the same if they weren't hyper critical of the Joooooos while they themselves have done and are using similar and even more extreme measures.
 
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I choose to stop responding in this thread to prevent too emotional reactions / flamewars / ... (this certainly applies to me as well!).
 

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