Is it just me or are all the 'lazy genius' claims irritating?

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The discussion centers on the phenomenon of "academic peacock syndrome," where students boast about their perceived academic prowess while downplaying the effort they put into their studies. Participants express frustration with peers in physics and engineering who loudly claim to have succeeded without studying, often leading to annoyance among those who genuinely work hard. The conversation explores various underlying factors, including the systemic issues in American education that can demotivate gifted students and the social dynamics that drive individuals to seek peer approval through bragging. Some contributors argue that this behavior stems from insecurity and a desire for recognition, while others highlight the importance of genuine effort and the negative impact of attention-seeking behavior on classroom dynamics. The discussion acknowledges that while some students may genuinely excel with minimal effort, many who engage in such boasting do not achieve significant academic success, leading to a broader critique of educational practices and social interactions within academic settings.
  • #31
Evo said:
You realize that no one has posted in this thread for 2 years?

How come, he did.
 
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  • #32
leroyjenkens said:
I hate the not lazy not geniuses; the people who think they know everything, and what they don't know, they make up. I have teachers who do that. For example, a student asked how pathos relates to the word pathological. The teacher gave an answer that indicated she didn't have any idea what the word pathological means. I probably should have said something.

This reminds me of one of my teachers. Whenever she didn't know the answer to something (which was quite a bit) she would reply, "Good question, go look it up." :rolleyes:
 
  • #33
~christina~ said:
This reminds me of one of my teachers. Whenever she didn't know the answer to something (which was quite a bit) she would reply, "Good question, go look it up." :rolleyes:

That's better than lying. :)
 
  • #34
~christina~ said:
This reminds me of one of my teachers. Whenever she didn't know the answer to something (which was quite a bit) she would reply, "Good question, go look it up." :rolleyes:
That's better than giving inaccurate information. "I don't know, but I'll find out." would be a better reply.
 
  • #36
turbo-1 said:
That's better than giving inaccurate information. "I don't know, but I'll find out." would be a better reply.

It's more of a 'you' find it out situation.
 
  • #38
~christina~ said:
It's more of a 'you' find it out situation.

I actually think this is a very appropriate answer.

A lot of people have this problem, that they like to just look for someone with credibility to ask a question and take at face value. I've always been more satisfied looking things up for myself. And most importantly, a teacher doesn't necessarily have the time to go into as much depth as you want even if have an answer. If you want something done right, do it yourself.

The thing about lazy geniuses, under certain definitions, who become bored with the slow pace learning and don't feel challenged, is that nobody is stopping them from learning faster and in more depth about the subject on their own.

Sure the teacher has to go at a pace that most of the students can keep up with, so what, what's stopping you from challenging yourself?

It is a childhood habit, probably left over from having to ask your parents everything, and you'll learn that like your parents, teachers don't know everything. At some point, you have to grow up.
 
  • #39
jreelawg said:
The thing about lazy geniuses, under certain definitions, who become bored with the slow pace learning and don't feel challenged, is that nobody is stopping them from learning faster and in more depth about the subject on their own.

Sure the teacher has to go at a pace that most of the students can keep up with, so what, what's stopping you from challenging yourself?

Except that, at least in K-12 systems, you have to be in class from 8am-4pm, which is a tremendous waste of time and can be tiring.
 
  • #40
I can sniff these people out with ease - I think it's a skill I have.

I'm generally a pretty reserved guy, if I get a 100 on an exam I don't run around tell people or talk loudly about how easy the exam/class is.

What I like to do is when I get a difficult problem that I can eventually figure out - I go up to one of these arrogant people and ask them if they got the problem. Usually they don't, and since I came up to them they are comfortable admitting it because they assume I didn't either. I then go to explain the problem step by step and watch a blank stare come on their face. Basically I just enjoy embarrassing these people and putting them in their place. Not that I'm some kind of genius or even all that smart, but you get a lot farther by shutting up and putting pencil to the paper than being a loudmouth.
 
  • #41
I've realized that many people will resent you for outperforming them.

I'm not a genius, but I have observed this social phenomena. And when someone is the smartest, or best at something, they have the whole curve to the left who might gang up on them.

If you want to be liked, and your a genius, it's sometimes best to act dumb, or throw a few games here and there.
 
  • #42
since going back to school and having to pick up some pre-reqs, I'm finding that several of the courses are about as difficult as high school. to get an A on the exam, you simply show up, pay attention (no facebook or games on the laptop), study over the exam review lecture material, then play multiple guess on the scantrons. some courses can be aced this way by simply using the convenient pdf or ppt lecture slides and never even bothering to open a book.
 
  • #43
Many 'lazy genius' claims are to save their self esteem, it might seem pathetic but in the end it isn't any worse than a lot of other ******** people spouts to keep their ego up. Just listen to a bunch of girls if one of them just broke up or relationship talk in general, or to a bunch of guys just after they did/failed any 'deed' at all.
 

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