Is it just me or are university libraries' books useless?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the perceived usefulness of university library books, particularly in the fields of mathematics and science. Participants express varying opinions on the relevance and accessibility of physical books versus electronic resources, as well as the overall value of library materials in academic settings.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that many math and science texts in university libraries are outdated and not utilized, suggesting that textbooks are sufficient for their studies.
  • Others counter that physical books are still valuable, especially for subjects like physics, where foundational texts have not changed significantly over decades.
  • Several participants mention the convenience of electronic resources but express concerns about the environmental impact of electronic devices compared to physical books.
  • There are claims that not all important texts are digitized, and that physical books allow for easier navigation and reference during study.
  • Some participants share personal experiences of infrequent library use, while others highlight the importance of libraries for research and supplemental learning.
  • One participant notes that library materials may be more beneficial for research-intensive universities, emphasizing the role of primary sources in academic work.
  • Concerns are raised about the accessibility of specialized texts, with some suggesting that many valuable resources are not available through torrenting or filesharing.
  • There is a humorous anecdote about the social perception of carrying physical books, suggesting they contribute to an intellectual image.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally do not reach a consensus, with multiple competing views on the usefulness of library books versus electronic resources, and the overall value of physical books in academic settings remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the environmental impact of electronic devices, while others note that library resources may not meet the needs of all students, particularly in terms of availability and relevance.

  • #31
Andy Resnick said:
Probably not- electronic subscriptions to Journals are not free.

and not cheap!

To add to that, if you want current research that is published in journals... you better have a good library handy! I actually tried to see if a certain paper that was published in Nuclear Physics B was available for free. I figured hey, its SO easy to make it free because it can just be saved to your hard drive! Then boom, put it on a pirating site.

Nope. No dice.
 
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  • #32
I was spending ~ 5 hours per day on average studying in my college library for all of my last semester.

I love libraries. When I go to new cities, first thing I do is make a library card. I attempt to read social science books (rarely) and some novels (often).

When I came to my college, first thing I did was to find the engineering library. I found really good books. I also sometimes borrow really good non-engineering books but because of other priorities I have never managed to do much readings.
 
  • #33
Pengwuino said:
and not cheap!

To add to that, if you want current research that is published in journals... you better have a good library handy! I actually tried to see if a certain paper that was published in Nuclear Physics B was available for free. I figured hey, its SO easy to make it free because it can just be saved to your hard drive! Then boom, put it on a pirating site.

Nope. No dice.

There's been a lot written about a certain publisher (*cough* elsevier *cough*) who's journals are "overly expensive". That's one argument in favor of open publishing- after all, the taxpayers paid for the work that went into the articles.

I've been frustrated more than once: our library no longer subscribes to "annual reviews", for example. Personally, I've found that emailing the authors directly circumvents subscription issues.
 
  • #34
Libraries are great for hitting on hot librarian chicks. You know, the type that wears the glasses and the hair in a tight bun. But then after the library closes, the glasses come off and the hair comes down and Va Va Voom!
 
  • #35
Topher925 said:
Libraries are great for hitting on hot librarian chicks. You know, the type that wears the glasses and the hair in a tight bun. But then after the library closes, the glasses come off and the hair comes down and Va Va Voom!

You mean like Cloris Leachman in the remake of The Longest Yard?
 

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