Is it possible to build a magnetic monopole using permanent magnets?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of constructing a magnetic monopole using permanent magnets, specifically through the arrangement of wedge-shaped magnets into a spherical configuration. The conversation explores theoretical implications, physical principles, and the limitations of such an endeavor.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that assembling wedge-shaped permanent magnets with the same pole facing outward could create a magnetic monopole.
  • Another participant counters that magnetic field lines always return to the opposite pole of a dipole, implying that a monopole cannot be formed.
  • A different viewpoint questions whether a perfect sealing of the wedges could allow for a monopole, suggesting that gaps might be necessary for the field lines to behave as described.
  • Another participant argues that attempting to constrain the magnetic field would weaken it externally, positing that a perfect seal would lead to no external magnetic field at all.
  • One participant asserts that the internal and external poles would cancel each other out, referencing multivariable calculus to support their claim that a monopole cannot be achieved in this manner.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the possibility of creating a magnetic monopole with permanent magnets, with multiple competing views presented on the implications of magnetic field behavior and the effects of sealing the magnets.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference theoretical constructs and physical principles without reaching a consensus on the feasibility of the proposed method for creating a magnetic monopole. The discussion highlights assumptions about magnetic field behavior and the nature of dipoles.

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Has anyone attempted build a magnetic monopole?

If you took a bunch of wedge-shaped permanent magnets and assembled them into a ball such that the same pole for each magnet was pointing out radially, then you would have a magnetic monopole. (see attached).
 

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No. The field lines always circle back to the other end of each dipole.
 
That would only happen if there were gaps, right? What if you could theoretically seal the wedges together perfectly?
 
The more you try and constrain the field on the inside the weaker it becomes on the outside. A perfect "seal" would result in no magnetic field on the outside. In practice you will probably end up with a semi random pattern of weak poles of both types.
 
Many people have attempted, just as many people have attempted to build perpetual motion machines. But anyone versed in physics knows that this won't work.

You have as many south poles on the inside of your sphere as you have north poles on the outside, so they cancel out. The outside of the sphere can't "shield" the poles on the inside, and the fact that the outside is closer to you doesn't help since it all cancels out for a sphere. You can prove this to yourself if you know some multivariable calculus.
 

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