Is it possible to express cos(40) as a radical?

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The discussion centers around the possibility of expressing cos(40) as a radical. Participants explore mathematical approaches, including polynomial equations and cyclotomic polynomials, while examining the implications of constructability related to regular polygons.

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  • Some participants propose that cos(40) can be derived from the equation $$ 4 \cos^{3}40 -3\cos40+0.5=0 $$ but note that this leads to complex numbers and requires further calculations involving cos(20) or cos(10).
  • Others argue that cos(40) can be viewed as the real part of z where z^9 = 1, leading to a factorization of the polynomial Z^9 - 1 into cyclotomic components, which includes cos(40) and cos(80).
  • A participant expresses disappointment in the inability to find a radical expression for cos(40) and references a wiki page listing angles that can be expressed in such a manner, noting that multiples of 10° do not appear on the list.
  • Another participant asserts that expressing cos(40) as a radical is impossible, linking this to the non-constructability of a regular nonagon.

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Participants generally agree that expressing cos(40) as a radical is not possible, but there are differing views on the reasoning behind this conclusion, particularly regarding the implications of constructability and the nature of the angles involved.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the limitations of certain angles being expressible as radicals, specifically noting that multiples of 10° do not seem to be included in established lists of constructible angles.

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Trying to find an expression for cos(40 degrees) (using any combination of radicals)
What sort of number is cos(40) ? You can solve the equation:

$$ 4 \cos^{3}40 -3\cos40+0,5=0 $$

but you end up with complex numbers requiring a cube root. The polar angle gets divided by 3 and you end up needing cos(20) or cos(10) in your answer. No way (it seems) to express as a radical or combination of radicals in any form .

The solution from WA is interesting. There are 3 solutions - as a 'bonus' for solving for cos(40), you also get answers for cos(20) and cos(80).

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cos(40) is the real part of z where z^9 is 1.
You can factor the polynomial Z^9 - 1. to get (z^6+z^3+1) (z^3-1) (see cyclotomic polynomial).
(z^6+z^3+1) is easy to solve, and will get you (cos(40)+sin(40)i) and (cos(80)+sin(80)i)
 
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willem2 said:
cos(40) is the real part of z where z^9 is 1.
You can factor the polynomial Z^9 - 1. to get (z^6+z^3+1) (z^3-1) (see cyclotomic polynomial).
(z^6+z^3+1) is easy to solve, and will get you (cos(40)+sin(40)i) and (cos(80)+sin(80)i)
I was hoping to find an expression for cos(40) in terms of radicals but it seems that won't be possible. I did find a wiki page on which angles could be expressed that way. Multiples of 10 don't seem to be on the list.
 
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I was hoping to find an expression for cos(40) in terms of radicals but it seems that won't be possible. I did find a wiki page on which angles could be expressed that way. Multiples of 10 don't seem to be on the list.
There are some multiples of 10° on the list, why do you think this is?
Degrees were invented by humans
## 180° \equiv \pi ##
 
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